TBH, they cannot come out and say anything other than they back the coach and team. But they must feel it, and Agar surely has his days numbered. A defeat to Rovers and he is gone I reckon

Maybe. It's whether seeing and feeling it will be enough for them to act. They must already know that a significant proportion of their fan base is feeling pretty disenfranchised and they don't really seem to be reflecting that in their communications. Take Rule's piece in the HDM after the Wakey (I think) game. All it did was wind people up even more.

We can but hope.

Rule is full of it and should simply say nothing more, unless it's his own public resignation or the sacking of Agar. Preferably both.

In my opinion Richard Agar should not have been the head coach for the start of this season. He should have been removed after the Leeds match.

I've said this a few times on various threads - people have to understand that a board (regardless of business or sport) have to toe a united front regardless of what is going on behind the scenes.
I'm not defending them per ce but just because they're not in the press acknowledging we're rubbish and the coach needs to go doesn't mean hints aren't moving in the background. The trouble is that things don't move as quickly as fans may want because there is generally more to consider than what the public sees.
I run a company and even when things are going bad we tell everyone how good things are or how relatively were beating the curve etc etc because that's what boards do. And when I was previously a senior manager at another firm I had to sack a few people but had to follow process and protocol which took way longer than I wanted but unfortunately had to be done.

Keep the faith, ultimately uncle Kath has a responsibility to to the best for the business and the major repeatable revenue stream is the fans who's numbers dwindle as the team gets worse.

Signing Gleeson was all down to Rich as was his "astute" signings of Obst and Phelps. The BOD would look particularly stupid if they sack Agar before Gleeson has played. He's here for the duration regrettably. Oddly having watched the highlights of the game on Sky I thought the French looked pretty good and that our performance wasn't as bad as first thought problem is it's the same things every week , can't kick , stupid last tackle plays and lazy defensive lapses.

So you will not be at the next home game then

That would have done for me.

Said we needed to win the next 4 before the Cas game. We're 1 from 3



Lose the derby and I think he's gone. Win the derby and he will stay for the season. That's how important I think the board will see the next game.

Can it be that simple? If we win the Derby, but then get beat by Wire, Saints and Hudds, that would have to be enough, wouldn't it?

Not sure on that - think the bod would prefer not to sack in the middle of the season and might be hoping that a derby victory would buy them time. Either way lose on Friday I think that'll be it for Agar.

You would like to think so eh. Personally as well, I think it will be and he will walk, or be pushed. I think he will resign before being pushed.

Surprising how many fans are saying that all we need to do is beat Rovers. A lot of these fans would be happy if we finished 13th as long as Rovers finished below us and we beat them twice.

I'd take defeat if I knew for a fact he'd be gone. I wonder how many others would feel the same - particularly if victory meant he would be here for the rest of the season.

I have a sneaking suspicion Noble would prefer the Hull job. He's dropped hints before, always speaks well about the club even off camera, and he'd probably be given more time with less pressure from the fans due to the situation he'd be taking over, and the board are less likely than Leeds to be as ruthless and 'do a Wigan' to him . There's also any residual Bradford loyalty to consider, as TBH they will always be 'his' club and he does seem that sort of guy to avoid going to bitter rivals.

If it was a fact he would go, I am with you. I would take a defeat.

Sad, isn't it. It's a small club mentality, that.

Whilst I always like to beat Rovers, a victory against them wouldn't mean that I felt remotely differently about the whole Agar situation.

That's far from the case for me. However with the symbology of the derby match combined with the fact we already lost one this season and our league position I just feel that another defeat will be the tipping point even for our BOD.

Anyone find this sentence from the OS worrying?


It's almost as if they're getting their excuses in early.

It will be a hollow victory if we beat rovers on friday,agar will then be going on about us turning the corner and challenging the play off positions until we get beat at warrington,i would take the defeat for agar to resign

I think you'd be surprised at how many fans would be in favour of a defeat IF it meant Agar was removed asap.

Been saying this for six weeks.

There seems to be a culture within our board of being unable to make a decision then tenaciously pursue the solution. FFS, our 3 crucial signings, in the 3 positions we have been screaming about for long enough were made after the season started, Furthermore, they were made in each case due to circumstance, rather than deliberate action by the club.

I said somewhere yesterday that Nobby is an average to good coach who can get good squads up the table pronto. Whether he is good enough to make them into a class above achieving successive silverware is doubtful, as illustrated at Wigan. But he's exactly what we need this year and next.

A month ago he'd have signed. Whether he will now with all the alternatives emerging is dubious. What we are witnessing is another example of the failure of our club to identify a problem - even if it's screaming at them in their faces - and secure the right solution for themselves, whatever it takes, at the expense of all others.

That of course, will be the actions of clubs like Leeds, Bradford and now Wigan (for next season). It will be interesting to see the calibre of the people they identify and make sure they get.

Noble? I think he'll go to Leeds. McDermott will either stay as second in command (as was originally intended under Bluey) or come to us. Thanks, the Heths.

All things considered i would like Noble to be our next coach and i would give Agar the job of DOR as i still think he has something to offer the club but unfortunately not head coach.

Average to good? He won everything in the game with Bradford, took Wigan from bottom of the table to one game off a grand final, and got a new, unprepared Crusaders team into the top 8. I'd have said that was 'very good', at least.