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| Quote ="garry brindley"Thanks for that insight into my psyche, you've made me realise that people like you are not only better fans, but better human beings than myself. You are of course 100% correct in everything you say, and I will promptly stop pretending to care about the club from this day forth.
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Not having a pop but wanting the team you support to lose just to help get rid of the coach....Get real.There are other ways and means.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Yes but those passes were sold at a loss, see how they get on next season when they revert to normal.'"
How can a pass be sold "at a loss"
Unless they were sold below the cost to print them, whats that? about £2?
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Not having a pop but wanting the team you support to lose just to help get rid of the coach....Get real.There are other ways and means.'"
You were having a bit of a pop mate. I'm not going to go into this again cos it's been done on other threads but it's not as if I'm rooting for our opposition. All I'll say is to think about what is better for the long-term future of the club, beating Crusaders on Friday and buying Agar more time, or losing to them and the potential to force change that that has. It's just pragmatism and you don't have to agree with it, but it's far from unreasonable.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"You were having a bit of a pop mate. I'm not going to go into this again cos it's been done on other threads but it's not as if I'm rooting for our opposition. All I'll say is to think about what is better for the long-term future of the club, beating Crusaders on Friday and buying Agar more time, or losing to them and the potential to force change that that has. It's just pragmatism and you don't have to agree with it, but it's far from unreasonable.'"
Agar is going to get sacked some time this season but it looks like it will be later rather than sooner and until then I'd like us to pick up as many points as possible.
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"How can a pass be sold "at a loss"
Unless they were sold below the cost to print them, whats that? about £2?'"
I thought i read somewhere they were losing money on them and when you consider they sold over 10k at £60 it could well be classed as a loss as they rely on the money from those to pay other things. So technically you are correct they lost no money on the passes but in the big scheme they may have done.
It does however show how desperate a club can get after years of dismal performances and will do almost anything to get people back through the gates.
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"How can a pass be sold "at a loss"
Unless they were sold below the cost to print them, whats that? about £2?'"
Probably a bit more than that once you add in costs of administration and distribution.
In practical terms, if their total income from passes this season is less than it was last season then they've been sold at a loss. That might be offset by increases in merchandising and/or food and drink sales if the extra passholders are people who didn't attend at all in previous seasons.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"You were having a bit of a pop mate. I'm not going to go into this again cos it's been done on other threads but it's not as if I'm rooting for our opposition. All I'll say is to think about what is better for the long-term future of the club, beating Crusaders on Friday and buying Agar more time, or losing to them and the potential to force change that that has. It's just pragmatism and you don't have to agree with it, but it's far from unreasonable.'"
I understand your sentiments, if FC lose on Friday and Agar was sacked I doubt very few supporters would be too worried about the loss tbh, I know I certainly would not.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Probably a bit more than that once you add in costs of administration and distribution.
In practical terms, if their total income from passes this season is less than it was last season then they've been sold at a loss. That might be offset by increases in merchandising and/or food and drink sales if the extra passholders are people who didn't attend at all in previous seasons.'"
Huddersfield ran a similar thing the other year I believe.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Agar is going to get sacked some time this season but it looks like it will be later rather than sooner and until then I'd like us to pick up as many points as possible.'"
That's the thing though, he isn't guaranteed to go at some point this season anyway, and every time we pick up points that gives the board more of an excuse to keep him. I think another 2 or 3 defeats now and it will bring the situation to a head, then we have an opportunity to bring in a proper coach (whether we appoint one or not is a different matter, I accept) and we could potentially reap the rewards at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Huddersfield ran a similar thing the other year I believe.'"
Theirs was directly subsidised by Davy though, so they were guaranteed to at least break even on the deal.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"That's the thing though, he isn't guaranteed to go at some point this season anyway, and every time we pick up points that gives the board more of an excuse to keep him. I think another 2 or 3 defeats now and it will bring the situation to a head, then we have an opportunity to bring in a proper coach (whether we appoint one or not is a different matter, I accept) and we could potentially reap the rewards at the end of the season.'"
I don't think he'll go before mid season regardless - unless we lose every single game between now and then. By which time our season will be dead anyway.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Theirs was directly subsidised by Davy though, so they were guaranteed to at least break even on the deal.'"
Oh right, suppose Bulls have no option though they need to get the supporters back, the way things are going I genuinely fear we could be another Bradford with 1000s of fans stopping going, especially in this financial market (Hope to god I am wrong though)...
Mind you it will be nice to be enticed back with a £60 season pass deal
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| Quote ="Kosh"I don't think he'll go before mid season regardless - unless we lose every single game between now and then. By which time our season will be dead anyway.'"
I honestly think if we lost another 2/3 on the bounce he is gone.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I don't think he'll go before mid season regardless - unless we lose every single game between now and then. By which time our season will be dead anyway.'"
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, things already got a bit nasty after a 3 game losing streak (6 if you count last season). If we lost to Crusaders and Wakey at home either side of the Wigan game the board would be forced to act IMO.
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| id give him the chop if we lose on friday...we wont beat wigan either..so thats 8 games without a win... can anyone remeber who we last beat?
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"id give him the chop if we lose on friday...we wont beat wigan either..so thats 8 games without a win... can anyone remeber who we last beat?'"
It was Crusaders at home thanks to that dodgy last minute penalty kicked by Tickle.
On the 13th of August
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"id give him the chop if we lose on friday...we wont beat wigan either..so thats 8 games without a win... can anyone remeber who we last beat?'"
Crusaders I think or was it the Dobbins...that long ago I have forgot
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| Quote ="garry brindley"It was Crusaders at home thanks to that dodgy last minute penalty kicked by Tickle.
On the 13th of August
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Fantastic Kick though
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| At least if we lose this one Agar can't use the old 'nevermind cos we lost this one last year' chestnut.
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| Quote ="holt fc"You may be correct that only 200-300 people use this site, and out of those 200-300 i would estimate that 95% of those people have had more than enough (me included). Surely some sort of message there even for those with the ultimate in black and white glasses! Also if these people who say they are going to boycott, do boycott and the other 7700 diehards have this same opinion, then yes it will be noticed. I am going, cant honestly say I am over excited at the thought of watching our boring one dimensional, uninspiring, lack of flair, lack of composure game, but I will still be there.
You say Friday will be a good test? This shows have far we have dropped that we are now entering games with the same expectation level as Wakefield, Salford or Harlequins.
You are right, it does not matter whether been following the club for 30 years or 30 months, we are all entitled to an opinion and how people express their opinion is up to them. My opinion is simple......grow a pair and get rid of this man before the true rot sets in and it will be extremely difficult to stop this rot becoming a total decay!'"
i agree with holt heres a song 4 those atending on friday see if you can fill in the blank. wer black wer white we know that agars ----- wer hull fc wer hull fc.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"At least if we lose this one Agar can't use the old 'nevermind cos we lost this one last year' chestnut.
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Ah but he can say we lost on their ground last year, so we know they are capable of beating us chestnut.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Do we know yet if the club are doing any promotions for Friday ?'"
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| Quote ="easthullairliebird"buy one ticket get twelve free
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| Quote ="hullbg"Ah but he can say we lost on their ground last year, so we know they are capable of beating us chestnut.
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" Their halfbacks kicked us to death and that was the difference between the teams"'" you forgot about the uprising in libya,the earthquake in nz or did man really land on the moon
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| Just think if we beat crusaders by more than a couple of points
Agar could state our performances are up on last year
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