at half time

ask mr rule!!!

They're not going to say,

"Don't tell anyone I told you, but I reckon he's a load of cack."

They virtually [ihave[/i to say they rate him.

Yup, they can't really say much else.

Maybe, but I know a couple well and I believe they are being genuine tbh.

How well? Peering through their bedroom windows with night vision goggles doesn't count as a friendship, you know.

Seriously, unless they class you as one of their close mates, it's easy enough to [iseem[/i genuine.

excellent post..i feel you hull fans deserve better than agar...its probally a cheap pay packet for him so the board dont want to pay more money for a top class coach.
which in my opinion stinks seeing the amount of speccies you take to away matches and always a good turn out at your home games.
its the fans who pay the money to get in but these board members and chairmen always seem to turn a blind eye to what the fans want..
i know im a saints speccy and your thinkin what the bloody hell is he doing on here but i feel for you lot i really do...
and as for longy ..to be truthfull i think his head is at hull..but his heart is still at saints..anyway i hope it all works out better for you in the future.

True.

But the perennial rhetoric we keep getting about "Agar brought us Long, Fitz and Ogre" no he didn't, six figure salaries did.

They never seem to wax lyrical that he procured Webster, Reardon, Thackray and, i'm really sorry for this next bit folks......Thorman.

It's where his legs are that provides most cause for concern.

Well enough.

Well, you're obviously entitled to your opinion, but I reckon that no player would risk the bother it would cause them by being unprofessional enough to let slip to a fan that they don't rate the coach. I posted something similar saying that they wouldn't slag him off to the press and you agreed. The same goes for fans - however well that fan thinks they know the player.

Ia greed with you about the press...They did not like Sharp

Thats pretty well all that can be attributed to Agar, just a real er that the areas in which he's consistent are not ones that are appropriate to being a decent coach.

And I for one and my family will not be renewing our passes next season while this man is in charge.

In any kind of weather ,



Agar will probably by next year be a lot more experienced as a coach and will obviously learn from his mistakes if given the chance. The salary cap is biting hard I'm afraid and if you lose key experienced personnel like Long then it is going to have a big impact on the team.
The two Hull sides are probably vying for 6,7 , 8th or even ninth position so if you get into the top eight that will be real progress.

After that depending on form and injury's anything can happen in the play offs.

Where exactly does it say that in this thread ??

can someone foward the message from the Saints fan to James Rule, maybe coming from a supporter from another club might carry abit more weight.

Not wishing to answer for that numpty, but the OP said it in his email to Jame Rule.

how much frekin time does he need to become more experienced???? he hasnt learnt from any of his mistakes, and i am running out of patience, no make that iv run out of patience!!!!!!! AGAR OUT lol

Unless your in their inner circle, no disrespect, but no player worth his salt, is going to tell a fan their true thoughts on a coach, not a chance, there going to come out with the usual, "top bloke" etc etc, hardly likely to come out and say, the guys clueless, crap coach, his half time talk sends us into a coma!!
i remember talking to Andy Last about John Kear, after hearing the talk about their being unrest in the team, and he told me its all b*ll, not a bit of truth in it, they 3 days later hey-ho Kears shown the door, when i next saw Lasty, i had a joke with him, and he sadi hes hardly likely to say how it really was! and i thought he was genuine

You may be a Saints fan but if you are going to post responses like that you are welcome back on here anytime.
It is good to see other fans can see we have a problem.

Any kind of weather doesn't mean we should turn into drones and just keep forking out for the dross that is being served up.
I am still not sure on whether i will renew my pass next year, but one thing i will certainly do is follow the team to all the away games if i decide not to renew the pass, at least that way i can watch my team and know the board are not getting any more money from me whilst they persist in sticking with what is becoming apparent and that is a failed coach.

Perhaps Agar is a nice bloke who gets on with everyone? The players may genuinely believe the hype that he's had ( essentially for being young and British ) and enjoy working with him. Unfortunately that has nothing to do with being an effective and successful coach or manager. Being pushed out of your comfort zone isn't necessarilly a pleasant thing at the time but a coach has got to do that on occasions and convince players that rewards will come from it. As a player if you're being told you're going well and not being asked for more why would you question it? Why wouldn't you support your coach? I just think it's all too cosy and familiar and it needs a complete change of people and ideas that will challenge the players we have. Cultures come from the top down. Our culture doesn't produce results. Change it.

How many bloody years does it take before you start to learn from your mistakes what you keep doing over and over again.
Agar has been with Hull for donkeys years now and he gets more like an ASS every year what goes by.

Wasn't Rommel was it? If so I strongly suspect any plans of a bronze statue of Radford will be put on hold.

Agar is still trying to play the game as Brian Smith did, thing is the games moved on even Bradford have at last realised this.

No a very pour coach in my opinion even in our dark days our coaches showed flashes of brilliance, Agar never has.