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| Quote ="mwindass"If what I've been told is true. He'll be on a rolling 12 month deal. After 2/3 seasons he'll move upstairs and appoint his successor.
Rolling 12 month contract suits both parties'"
I'd take that, his won record is very good overall, tool Rovets to their first play off and CC semi in years.
I don't think he is the best at bringing young players through, which is a key area for us over the next couple of years, so hopefully he will a people around him to encourage him to bring those players through.
Hopefully bin Purtill off and bring in his assistant or promote Shenton.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Don't think Smith would take too kindly to working under someone. Its part of the reason things deteriorated at Rovers.
He wanted more involvement in the club, Lakin told him to concentrate on the team. The two of them kept butting heads.'"
Any disagreement with a CEO only ends one way. That is if the CEO is doing his job properly.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I suspect Pearson planned to keep Hodgson for next year, but with performance and the fans reaction, I don't think he has a choice but to make some kind of change to the coaching setup.'"
This is my take on it too, I also don't think Hodgson choosing next year's signings is a massive problem...most of the players we have signed are versatile utility players it's not like he's picked some unusual signings with skills a new coach won't needed. I'd imagine any potential coach would have signed Dwyer given the chance too. There's also months to go til the new season, Hodgson himself didn't arrive til Nov/Dec the other year.
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| Quote ="UllFC"This is my take on it too, I also don't think Hodgson choosing next year's signings is a massive problem...most of the players we have signed are versatile utility players it's not like he's picked some unusual signings with skills a new coach won't needed. I'd imagine any potential coach would have signed Dwyer given the chance too. There's also months to go til the new season, Hodgson himself didn't arrive til Nov/Dec the other year.'"
Yes, versatile utility players but decidedly average with the possible exception of Hoy.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Apparently Smith wanted Dwyer at Rovers. According to my Rovers mate. Maybe he's had a hand in our recruitment for a while'"
Doubt that very much. Dwyer cannot be compared with either of our two hookers. Yes he can scoot from the play the ball but so can Parcell and Litten. In all other aspects of the role he comes a miserable third.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Doubt that very much. Dwyer cannot be compared with either of our two hookers. Yes he can scoot from the play the ball but so can Parcell and Litten. In all other aspects of the role he comes a miserable third.'"
DM wanted to keep Parcell. Smith wanted Dwyer. Is what I was told.
Spot being so defensive
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| Dwyer can't be that bad, he was nailed on as Robys replacement until Roby spoke to Saints and basically said that they had just assumed he was retiring, but wanted another year, so they scrambled his extension through and left Dwyer in limbo
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Doubt that very much. Dwyer cannot be compared with either of our two hookers. Yes he can scoot from the play the ball but so can Parcell and Litten. In all other aspects of the role he comes a miserable third.'"
Parcell is a very good player, never understood Leeds letting him go. Ive never seen Litten change a game though and dont hold him in the same regard as the pther two.
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| Reliably informed that Tony Smith will be coach of Hull fc for next season. Don't shoot the messenger !!
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| Its all not adding up for me the whole situation. Rumours of players doing what they want, I just cant imagine everyone at the club allowing that to happen.
I cant understand Pearson firing the gun now when he could have done months ago to save our season. It wasnt a money issue as we brought players in.
Say if Hodgson goes and Smith came in for a season before moving upstairs I dont see how that works either. If your going to make him DOR them do that and appoint a head coach, why wait about ?
My issue with Smith is hes known to take his bat and ball home, he gets bored and has walked out on a few of his roles. Im not so sure he will drastically change anything, it was proven at KR hes not exempt to losing the dressing room.
Say if it does happen and come this point next season it doesnt work out, who gets the bullet then ? Another head coach or the same players who would be on the fourth head coach. Considering all those barring Last have achieved a hell of alot in the game at coaching or player level.
I mean Hodgson is on the thinnest of ices, he hasnt many supporters. But everyone cant be that naive to think a new coach is going to turn these lot around ? They are rotten to the core with bad attitude, they all have to be on the chopping block surely.
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| The problem with this constant strategy of sacking the coach is that some of the long term "club hull" players are now on effectively their 4th chance at the club (Radford, Last, Hodgson and potentially Smith) when it should be some of them being shown the door. Another year of having it easy whilst the new coach beds in and works out the problems at the club
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Its all not adding up for me the whole situation. Rumours of players doing what they want, I just cant imagine everyone at the club allowing that to happen.
I cant understand Pearson firing the gun now when he could have done months ago to save our season. It wasnt a money issue as we brought players in.
Say if Hodgson goes and Smith came in for a season before moving upstairs I dont see how that works either. If your going to make him DOR them do that and appoint a head coach, why wait about ?
My issue with Smith is hes known to take his bat and ball home, he gets bored and has walked out on a few of his roles. Im not so sure he will drastically change anything, it was proven at KR hes not exempt to losing the dressing room.
Say if it does happen and come this point next season it doesnt work out, who gets the bullet then ? Another head coach or the same players who would be on the fourth head coach. Considering all those barring Last have achieved a hell of alot in the game at coaching or player level.
I mean Hodgson is on the thinnest of ices, he hasnt many supporters. But everyone cant be that naive to think a new coach is going to turn these lot around ? They are rotten to the core with bad attitude, they all have to be on the chopping block surely.'"
Pearson did give Hodgson a shot by bringing in the loan signings and clearing the decks to get Hoy early (only for Pongia's concussion to scupper that) and then signed Smith. We tried to sort 2022 out but it just didn't happen aside from winning at Magic.
Yes Smith does spit his dummy out but even if he does that a year or two down the line I think its likely we will be in a better place. Even though 2022 didnt end well for Rovers he's still left a good foundation for the next coach.
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| Quote ="Steve0"The problem with this constant strategy of sacking the coach is that some of the long term "club hull" players are now on effectively their 4th chance at the club (Radford, Last, Hodgson and potentially Smith) when it should be some of them being shown the door. Another year of having it easy whilst the new coach beds in and works out the problems at the club'"
Could be a possibility players are paid off, if they don't step onto the field they don't go on the cap, but it is of course wasteful to do that particularly when the club is short of funds.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Pearson did give Hodgson a shot by bringing in the loan signings and clearing the decks to get Hoy early (only for Pongia's concussion to scupper that) and then signed Smith. We tried to sort 2022 out but it just didn't happen aside from winning at Magic.
Yes Smith does spit his dummy out but even if he does that a year or two down the line I think its likely we will be in a better place. Even though 2022 didnt end well for Rovers he's still left a good foundation for the next coach.'"
As much as people want change, bringing in a temp coach isnt the answer.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"As much as people want change, bringing in a temp coach isnt the answer.'"
I think it's a smart move, our next big appointment needs to the benefit one, getting Smith in for a year or so allows us to choose the right man and have some input from a very experienced rugby man.
I'd back us to finish top 6 next year with Smith in charge next year.
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| Looks like he has gone , most the payers kmow already if not all of them . Smith to me is the obvious choice anyway , been crying out for a established coach for years instead of assistants .
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| if smith takes over,we will be relegated next season.no lover of hodgson,but he has a 39% win ratio with us.smith had a 33% win ratio with the dobbins.he might have been a good coach years ago but thats history.we might as well get his big brother brian smith back.now there was a decent coach.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"if smith takes over,we will be relegated next season.no lover of hodgson,but he has a 39% win ratio with us.smith had a 33% win ratio with the dobbins.he might have been a good coach years ago but thats history.we might as well get his big brother brian smith back.now there was a decent coach.'"
You need to factor in that in 2020 there wasn't any relegation due to Toronto dropping out so Rovers played a risky attacking style instead of grinding out results. In 2021 he got them to 80mins from the Grand Final.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"if smith takes over,we will be relegated next season.no lover of hodgson,but he has a 39% win ratio with us.smith had a 33% win ratio with the dobbins.he might have been a good coach years ago but thats history.we might as well get his big brother brian smith back.now there was a decent coach.'"
What is his overall win percentage in SL?
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| the grand final.you mean the 3 match knockout cup.takes 4 games to win the challenge cup.overated sky egg cup.i never watch it.roll on the world cup.next rugby ill be watching.
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| Quote ="UllFC"You need to factor in that in 2020 there wasn't any relegation due to Toronto dropping out so Rovers played a risky attacking style instead of grinding out results. In 2021 he got them to 80mins from the Grand Final.'"
Said that myself to rovers fans , he didn’t play that way at other clubs , and also rovers lack of good props meant they played the way they have , off the cuff . Doubt we’d play the same way rovers have , if smith comes .
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| no pass for me if smith takes over.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"no pass for me if smith takes over.'"
A bit of a weird thing, why not give him the chance, he has won multiple trophies including 2 grand finals who would you rather have Hodgson, a failed coach with no other experience?
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| Quote ="Dave K."A bit of a weird thing, why not give him the chance, he has won multiple trophies including 2 grand finals who would you rather have Hodgson, a failed coach with no other experience?'"
And who else realistically would want to come? money is tight so i'm not sure we could even poach another SL coach and we've tried and failed with assistants before
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