13 tries in the 27 games he's played since the start of last season, so about par for his career record, and wasn't he playing whilst waiting for an ankle op last season?

Some of the posts on here are shocking, Yeamo's given more than 10 years for this club, he isn't in the best form of his life but he's still far better than Arundle.

So you can categorically say that Yeamo would have done the same thing had the score been 18-20?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and I'm happy for any of our players to back themselves. Sometimes it pays, sometimes it doesn't.

Which is all well and good, but he's being criticised based on his form [inow[/i. Or should we not praise him when he's in good form?

And how long is temporary? A few games? A season? More than one season?

Gentle should pick on form (and availability obviously). It should be based on what players are doing in games and in training. I've not seen the Yeaman no pass incident but one thing's for sure regardless of which player it is to go to the next level we have to make sure we convert chances like that one if we want to ruthlessly beat top teams. All of the players should watch it and learn from it because it's those chances which can be the difference between success and failure.

With regard to Yeamo he's been in decent defensive form recently - my biggest gripe with his game would be the amount of ball I perceive him to put down (often crash ball) inside the opposition's 20. We know his strengths and weaknesses by now but his handling can at times be average.

Some people have gone a little over the top - on both sides of the argument. Unfortunately that's par for the course on t'internet. Not sure I'd describe anything on this thread as [ishocking[/i though. For that you need Twitter. Some real pieces of work on there.

I haven't said that Kirk is completely useless, or even called for him to be dropped. I am concerned about his form and particularly his handling - I'm fairly sure he won't be happy about it himself. I've suggested that when Arundel is fit it will be interesting to see what happens. That's what competition for places is all about after all. No point in having options if certain players are guaranteed a place regardless of form, is there?

People need to get off yeamos back! He gives 100% every game,always plays with pride and passion! a couple of mistakes doesn't make him a bad player! he will learn from it and come back stronger!

Spot on.

Not one person has questioned Kirk's effort or commitment.

I dunno, the post calling him for having an attitude problem and a couple of others really aren't necessary.

I agree it'll be interesting, though I think at the moment Kirk's earned the right to have a couple of bad games before we drop him for Arundel, if we're having the same conversation in 4 or 5 weeks then I may well have changed my mind.

Not really necessary and shocking aren't really the same thing though, are they? Or maybe I'm just hard to shock.



IMO it's not about a couple of bad games. It's about an issue with his handling and decision making in attack that's been there all season and if anything is getting worse. His defence has on the whole been up to his usual high standard.

Never got beyond the 1st 3 pages of negativity. Yeamo 100% FC should have passed, made error, so what move on, we won the game FFS.

Looked subdued as the team clapped the fans after the game so I'm sure he knows, and his team mates let him know.

In the 1st half the "fans" were chanting his name before the dis-allowed try that Ganson would have given

Still in my starting 17 ahead of Arundle

The funny thing is when/if he gets dropped for arundle and he gets found out / run over in defence the same posters will be moaning that he shouldnt have been dropped .
People slag players off and hide behind the old its an opinion . DJ missed couple of easy kicks which could have cost us the games but doesnt face this kind of abuse (and rightly so)

Just beat Leeds to go 4th n 9pages of this garbage. Yeah didn't pass a ball but played virtually 2 positions last night and Leeds still only got by once.

9pages!!! Seriously

Probably not, maybe went too far with shocking and not far enough with unnecessary, it's more somewhere in the middle, and I do think he deserves more respect.

Apart from that one decision last night I can't remember him making a massive error with ball in hand this season where Briscoe/ anyone else would have scored had he passed the ball, although I haven't seen as many games as usual, and he is putting more ball down, though our left side is getting used differently and Yeamo's taking more balls hard and flat at the line compared to in the past, whereas our clean, quick ball is going right giving Crooks more time and space with the ball.

Agree on his defence, he had Watkins in his pocket last night until he went off.

This!

Not as black and white (pun intended) as that.

Yeaman has played over 300? games at first team level for Hull plus quite a few international games as well.

We should expect more from him then from Arundel who is still young and learning the game.

Its how you respond and react to these game changing moments which define how a player will be classed.

Ben Crooks is already showing signs that he is better aware then Yeaman and Arundel may well have similar qualities.

That said this is not a pop at Yeaman who I think is a top quality SL player but more a realisation that if his high standards are not maintained then a spell not in the first team may follow.

In that case, I wonder who's going to start the thread bemoaning Holdsworth dropping the ball cold with the try line open. Infinitely worse error than Yeamo's.

Big difference. Every player is going to make that kind of mistake at some time - Yeamans was not a physical error but more a choice error if that makes sense?!?!?!

Last week at Magic Kirk dropped one cold with the line begging - happens. Same happened with Hornes pass to Crooks.

This

But it was an error in isolation, Yeaman was outstanding defensively covering Briscoe, and did his work carting the ball out. Nobody wants to praise his pace to get round the outside of his opposite number and make a 50m break, instead slating him for backing that same pace in the next phase.
Yeaman not passing is not a big thing for me, and his winger hasn't really suffered as he's got a better than 1 in 2 ratio as well.
If Yeaman was as greedy and didn't have the conversion rate he does then maybe it would be a problem.

Ah,so its all down to Yeaman that Briscoe wants to go?


You learn something every day.

I dont normally subscribe to the Yeaman being greedy theory, usually I think its a lack of awareness/confidence/ability but last night I do think he went for personal glory which thankfully didnt end up costing us. Having said that we bombed several other try scoring opportunities that we need to be converting if we want to win something.

Page 4 mate!

Agree with the rest of what you've said too.

Kevin Sinfield makes Paul Wellens look like Linford Christie, that's probably why he's not been heaped with praise for the break.

What about Delaney and Vickery? Not exactly rapid but Yeaman's absolutely burned them all for pace in that break, and I don't think if he'd completely backed himself he'd have finished far away from the try line.