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| Nononononononono not Wheeldon! Please think before you type! :p
if we were to get anyone fromKR, I'd like it to be Watts, but that'll never happen.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Quote ="Dave K."Quote ="Mrs Barista"Quote ="joburg"Yes, but you have too many of them.'"
Actually if we get rid of Cusack, Dowes and Radford, we don't have enough. IMO.'"
If we sign Fielden, thats pretty much the role he plays these days, also O Meley works very hard.
Reading the HDM today it looks like Dowes and Radford are on their way.
So another prop if Fielden signs will still be needed.'"
With Cusack retiring if we lose both Dowes and Radford then we are definately in need of at least one more prop. I wouldn't mind seeing Hargreaves as a replacement, young and takes the ball up well. Wonder if the Agar may be tempted to take Wheeldon back?'"
Hargreaves would be my choice as 4th prop along with O Meley, Moa and Fielden.
If we signed Wheeldon I would use him as the 5th prop and move lauaki or Fitz to prop, Washbrook at LF.
Not sure of any other decent props available.
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| The size of him now could re sign Cooky and play him at prop,have to shed a few pounds though.
Let Wheeldon go cause he was not good enough,That fact hasn't changed,Would love Hargreaves,but can't see it happening.
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| Is there any substance to the mention of hargreaves, or are you all just fantasising?(sp)
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| Quote ="Dave K."Hargreaves would be my choice as 4th prop along with O Meley, Moa and Fielden.
If we signed Wheeldon I would use him as the 5th prop and move lauaki or Fitz to prop, Washbrook at LF.
Not sure of any other decent props available.'"
Or Prescott from Wigan, he or Hargreaves would be good.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Or Prescott from Wigan, he or Hargreaves would be good.'"
I still think we may get surprised and pull off a bigger signing up front than Hargreaves or Prescott.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I still think we may get surprised and pull off a bigger signing up front than Hargreaves or Prescott.'"
You mean like Fielden...
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You mean like Fielden...
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woundt be suprised if louie mccarthy scarsbrook isnt in a hull fc shirt next season
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You mean like Fielden...
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I mean additional to Fielden!
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| Quote ="Panda92"Is there any substance to the mention of hargreaves, or are you all just fantasising?(sp)'"
He has been told he can speak to other clubs so this would suggest he is available.
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| [url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/hullfc/HULL-FC-happy-wage-structure-says-Rule-Dowes-linked-Bradford/article-2572437-detail/article.htmlLooks like we're standing firm with take-it-or-leave-it for both.[/url
A good sign for our future application of the cap IMO. I have to say I'd be curious as to how much of a decrease the deals are, and what other clubs are willing to offer. Think it might turn out that they've been on pretty generous deals TBH. Looks like Agar is getting the required ruthless streak, too.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/hullfc/HULL-FC-happy-wage-structure-says-Rule-Dowes-linked-Bradford/article-2572437-detail/article.htmlLooks like we're standing firm with take-it-or-leave-it for both.[/url
A good sign for our future application of the cap IMO. I have to say I'd be curious as to how much of a decrease the deals are, and what other clubs are willing to offer. Think it might turn out that they've been on pretty generous deals TBH. Looks like Agar is getting the required ruthless streak, too.'"
So the mail believes we broke our wage structure for Tickle? That would concern me based on the fact we've missed out on numerous class players in the past for not doing so.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"with regards Mac, he was one of the most creastive players the club had for many years and we always seemed better when he played.. .i know this is all about opinions on here but did you actually ever watch him , he was an awesome player and very under rated!!, loved by the club, fans and the players alike'"
Of course i wacthed him, many times, but the general consensus was that he was ok. Only when he left did people seem to realise what a great player he was and how we would miss him.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I mean additional to Fielden!
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| As much as I like some of the names we are linked too, I wouldn't mind hearing about us being linked to some decent backs.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"As much as I like some of the names we are linked too, I wouldn't mind hearing about us being linked to some decent backs.'"
Exactly what I was thinking!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"So the mail believes we broke our wage structure for Tickle? That would concern me based on the fact we've missed out on numerous class players in the past for not doing so.'"
Maybe before the club were not in a position to do so with the structure as it was, but have been able to do this with Tickle because of what looks to have been a complete evaluation of each players worth to the club which is now seemingly reflected in the new deals they are (or not) offered.
This TBH is something that has come not before time as I have often wondered how we could have been so close to the cap limit when looking and the players we have had which were mostly average hence the cutting of the deadwood last season.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"As much as I like some of the names we are linked too, I wouldn't mind hearing about us being linked to some decent backs.'"
Ainscough is another name starting to come up.Can't see it myself unless they are thinking of playing Sharp at full back and moving Tansey to the halves.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Maybe before the club were not in a position to do so with the structure as it was, but have been able to do this with Tickle because of what looks to have been a complete evaluation of each players worth to the club which is now seemingly reflected in the new deals they are (or not) offered.
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But if you evaluate the full situation you dont break the structure you change the structure to accomodate your new remuneration structure.
In the previous situations of players like Orford and Monaghan why would we not have reviewed our structure at the time and chose to change it then? I'd rather if we did change the way we did things it would be to sign a player like Monaghan rather than Tickle.
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"Ainscough is another name starting to come up.Can't see it myself unless they are thinking of playing Sharp at full back and moving Tansey to the halves.'"
If we get the chance to sign Ainscough we need to take it. I'd worry about how to fit them all into my team later.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"But if you evaluate the full situation you dont break the structure you change the structure to accomodate your new remuneration structure.
In the previous situations of players like Orford and Monaghan why would we not have reviewed our structure at the time and chose to change it then? I'd rather if we did change the way we did things it would be to sign a player like Monaghan rather than Tickle.'"
I agree previously we have missed out on the players you mention but who's to say we haven't changed things for that very reason? Tickle may just be the first opportunity under a new structure regarding player recruitment/retention. May be that things are being readied for next season. Plus with the amount of players who were still on deals it would have been impossible to do anything regarding pay until these deals were up for renewal etc. Plus the other complication comes with staying under the cap so could have been worked on for a while but only now have the club been able to implement it.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"So the mail believes we broke our wage structure for Tickle? That would concern me based on the fact we've missed out on numerous class players in the past for not doing so.'"
It would encourage me rather than disappoint me. Surely means we are less likely to miss out again in the future?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"It would encourage me rather than disappoint me. Surely means we are less likely to miss out again in the future?'"
Agree and think that if Tickle had have gone it would have been a big loss to the team and one we would have struggled to fill.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"It would encourage me rather than disappoint me. Surely means we are less likely to miss out again in the future?'"
It would concern me as to why now? What kind of message does it give to some of our other players too who may have already signed their contracts within the existing structure.
It's encouraging looking forward, disappointing that we've missed soo many opportunities through the approach in the past.
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| Quote ="Chris71"I agree previously we have missed out on the players you mention but who's to say we haven't changed things for that very reason? Tickle may just be the first opportunity under a new structure regarding player recruitment/retention. '"
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