cant believe you even replied to that

Think this is where we find out if our coach has the qualities to work on the lad's frailties and bring out his best.The lads a talent and he can certainly excite the fans.Remember when Vaikona came,he could'nt tackle to save his life but look how he progressed.

good post

Just a single vowel change and it reads even more true and depressing.

I want to win, and be entertained.

Which is why I think we're fkd with Agar/Sharp.

Agree both are important but if you could only have one it would be the 2 points every time wouldnt it? We live in a results driven world at it is a business afterall!

Hall broke into first team football a couple of years ago because of injuries in the Hull backs. He was a raw, precocious talent and very, very young. It's only two years since then and it's easy to forget that he moved up[ into the first team because of need rather than him ousting better players. He is a wonderful attacking player and will get better in defence with time. I think his flair and self belief might make him develop into a great 6 in the future.

Craig Hall has the potential to be one of the best in the Superleague.

Don't make the mistake Wigan made with Brown, Wild, Aspinwall etc, by overplaying them at too young an age.

If they are not mature enough mentally, they they think that they have "made it".

Then, when they make a few mistakes, the crowd gets on their backs, and their confidence suffers.

They then make more mistakes and it's a downward spiral.

Tommy Lee, anyone.

Good points your dead right

You clearly do though, so lets not pretend.

Likewise.

Hall has to play, its as simple as that. With Horne and Crocker on his side he will have more defensive protection. Yes he will make mistakes but I would still play him.

Very good points.

can some of you remember how old the lad is!!!!
give him a chance, he will be going no where but will be back in his rightful place as a good youngster learning the game in a decent squad
and he will get game time in 2009
but not all the time!!!

I'm having a similar discussion with our St. Helens friends

with regards to Darrell Goulding.

He and Craig Hall played together for England academy, and like Hall has not developed quite as fast as we would have liked. However he is still only 20 years of age.

Give the kids a break. Ease them in gently (Goulding played 19 games last season) and they will come through.

It's interesting how no one is mentioning just how awful Yeamans positioning can be. His wembley appearance was extremely Hallesque, culpable for 2 of their tries but bombed out of the line to intercept and go the length. Hall has to be perservered with, he has somehting in abundance that not many of our 3/4s have had over the last 20 years. There's no substitute for pace and for a centre he's still extremely young.

Did well at fullback last night, made 2/3 very good breaks. That said Horne also played well at centre, looked very strong.

did horne do the 80?

I have

Think so.

Yet people still think Byrne will play right centre



Hall did well and could make a good full back

ive said all along Horne will be right centre as he played well there last season. looks as though he's picked up where he left off.

But was also seriously found wanting in some games and we looked a million times better with Briscoe there in the cup final for example when Horne went off.

I think he played really well in a lot of games but still also think we need a different option there. See what happens i guess.

Hall should have been on the pitch for that game...simple as

The thing with Horne is he's solid in defense but won't really do much in attack. I personally think Hall should play there.