People not getting it! Fitz has basically been playing as a prop, just the number 13 on his back rather then 8 or 10! Like you say Paul, he will play the same game where ever he plays.

I like the idea of Washy at hooker with Houghton, I am still a believer of what he can do and prefer him in the thick of it in the middle. No need in bringing in an actual hooker IMO, bringing in some HB/SO cover is priority [uIF[/u indeed we get Westy or a similar player.

1 Tansey
2 Sharp
3 Berrigan
4 Yeaman
5 T Briscoe
6 ?
7 Long

8 Fitzgibbon
9 Houghton
10 O'Meley
11 Tickle
12 Manu
13 Whiting

14 Horne
15 Lauaki
16 Radford
17 Moa

Use the overseas spot to sign an Aussie half back, who's creative. Horne on the bench to spell Houghton for 20 minutes, can cover full back, centres and stand off.

Use Fitzgibbon as a prop, which is what he plays as now anyway and have Whiting at loose man as an extra playmaker.

Don't disagree with that but we're not going to get an attacking half for 2011. Agar has said he's looking for back up presumably cos there are no front line guys out there. We're too late. That being the case and only because of that we'll have to make do and making do with Washbrook, who would not get into most other teams as a specialist anything, is probably our only option. He is at least generally consistent and certainly grafts. He isn't fast , he isn't creative and he won't be the best dummy half in the world but we're talking stop gap.......hopefully! If we can get a better stop gap solution from Oz for a year then fair enough but we don't want to be handing out two or three year deals to another ordinary player.

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Reading between the lines of that, they've implied that the only space really that's left on the cap will be whatever wage Dowes was on, as he's the only player to have not resigned from last season, and we were at full cap last year, apparently. (I'm assuming that Radford's lower wage and Tickle's increased wage will just about cancel each other out).

Absolutely right. Much as we need a HB, I'd rather go with what we've got for 2011 than compromise our options for 2012 by having to offer a 2 year deal for an ordinary quota filler-in.

Quote ="Mrs Barista"Absolutely right. Much as we need a HB, I'd rather go with what we've got for 2011 than compromise our options for 2012 by having to offer a 2 year deal for an ordinary quota filler-in.'" I'd rather we went for a season long loan deal with someone like this.... www.warriors.co.nz/our-team/play ... un-Johnson And if he liked it here we could sign him in the future. If not, any other Toyota cup boom youngster would be a great option.

Quote ="Mrs Barista"Absolutely right. Much as we need a HB, I'd rather go with what we've got for 2011 than compromise our options for 2012 by having to offer a 2 year deal for an ordinary quota filler-in.'" I'd rather we went for a season long loan deal with someone like this.... www.warriors.co.nz/our-team/play ... un-Johnson And if he liked it here we could sign him in the future. If not, any other Toyota cup boom youngster would be a great option.

Where has Agar said that Berrigan won't be our hooker next year?

Berrigan's our best centre. Why would we play him as an interchange hooker?

There's nothing in those lines never mind between them!


I think that the comments regarding "taking our time" from Agar are more pertinent and suggest that we've maybe just been knocked back on a deal we thought may happen and now are starting again/having to ressurrect other deals? I just hope we don't panic buy.

Quote ="Raggytash"I'd rather we went for a season long loan deal with someone like this.... www.warriors.co.nz/our-team/play ... un-Johnson And if he liked it here we could sign him in the future. If not, any other Toyota cup boom youngster would be a great option.'" So would I but anyof these guys that are likley to make it will stay. Johnson is touted by those who know as the next big thing and he's likley to make his debut in the NRL this year. You'd think that there would be plenty of kids over there who can't quite make it but would be better than what we have here but if they have belief in themselves they tend to stick it out.

Quote ="Raggytash"I'd rather we went for a season long loan deal with someone like this.... www.warriors.co.nz/our-team/play ... un-Johnson And if he liked it here we could sign him in the future. If not, any other Toyota cup boom youngster would be a great option.'" So would I but anyof these guys that are likley to make it will stay. Johnson is touted by those who know as the next big thing and he's likley to make his debut in the NRL this year. You'd think that there would be plenty of kids over there who can't quite make it but would be better than what we have here but if they have belief in themselves they tend to stick it out.

"With ten new faces in the squad last season, a host of players retained on new deals throughout the year and the club operating at salary cap maximum once again, there isn’t much more scope for further movement."

I presumed from that that as Dowes is the only ??? atm, we're roughly at the cap, minus his wage.


That's where I got that idea from, anyway.



As for panic buying, I heard Chris Thorman is looking for a Sl deal......

got told Zak Hardaker is going leeds rhinos nxt season for £110.000 and being loaned back to fev next year

£110! Bargain! Lets have a whip-around and outbid them!

i dont read much in rules words,i think its just a case of wait and see.hulls signings tend to come out of the blue anyway.it wouldnt surprise me if we announced a couple of signings in the next fortnight.but at the end of the day nobody outside the club has any idea.

Rule is letting us down gently. No new signings to come until 2012.
Dowes maybe but he is not a new signing.

plus castleford have signed richard mathers from warrington

I know I've asked this before, but I'm now of that age where I can't remember what I had for my tea. If Dowes doesn't sign for us, where is he going? Who else is in for him?

He'd be looking at Championship, probably. Maybe Wakefield would have a punt on him, you know what Kear's like with collecting ex-fc players

has rule found the £112mill ticket cause that's the only way well make that sort of offer

Quote ="Seph"How long has Luke Robinson got on his contract at Hudds......?'" 2012 - www.howesetc.co.uk/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=27

Quote ="Seph"How long has Luke Robinson got on his contract at Hudds......?'" 2012 - www.howesetc.co.uk/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=27

Which begs the question: If that's the case why would we.....

What sort of chunk of the cap would Dowes be taking? I think the main reason Calderwood was released was (I'm guessing) the salary he was commanding - we'd have risked the injury liability if he was on a similar wage to, say, Briscoe, Turner and Sharp.

could any of these signings be playing for England in the 4 nations

Exactly. Now I'm not suggesting they're on a par as players, but I find it strange that Radford was pilloried for not offering what people expected of a loose forward whilst Fitzgibbon is lauded, as they have both done exactly the same job there, just to differing levels.

For some reason, people seem to struggle seeing beyond the shirt number at times. It was the same when we had Cooke and Horne wearing 6 and 7, respectively.