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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It would be the easy decision to make, but the wrong one for the club and the player in the longer term'"
Yup. Easy decisions get a lot of businesses and sports clubs into a mess further down the line.
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| No player is bigger than the club or in this case the club's behavioural policies. He's had enough chances and should be sacked. As for the argument about it weakening us well maybe short term it does but showing young up and coming players it's OK to keep breaking the rules would weaken us much more longer term. Add to that the possibility that the other players in the squad are sick and tired of his errant behaviour then keeping him could easily weaken the spirit in the team and be counter productive. We've given him multiple chances and we don't need the let downs he continues to provide any longer.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"
It's a real shame as I think we will really miss him.'"
there is no think about it Paul, he is a class act on the field how can we not miss him? even Ogre said on Sunday he is one of the most talented kids he has ever seen
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"
I sat with others and listened to him break his heart last week about many things i would not repeat on here '"
Are you his sponsor?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"People keep saying about him being given a last warning saying it was documented in the press, Hull FC have never stated (IIRC) that he was on a final warning.'"
You are right, however his suspensions for discipline have been well documented in the press. How many chances should he have ?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"What if he'd been available in the play off game last year?
He hasn't even played a competitive game for us between his last 2 suspensions'"
There is no argument jake, I know you know and he knows he has been a minge but that doesnt change the fact he is a class act on the field that just needs some help were not qualified to give off it!!
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"actually like i said before i actually know the kid to be a really nice lad but very young in mind is the issue!!
I sat with others and listened to him break his heart last week about many things i would not repeat on here but I would say he definately isnt the monster many portrait on here , actually a very likable lad indeed so I care about Jordan and as a club we would be losing a class footballer too.
However I fear its done and dusted now and so we move on'"
Refreshing to hear this.
Whether he stays or goes and whatever people think of his drinking he is a young kid who obviously has issues and I hope for his own sake he manages to overcome them.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"There is no argument jake, I know you know and he knows he has been a minge but that doesnt change the fact he is a class act on the field that just needs some help were not qualified to give off it!!'"
it doesn't change it, but it definitely offsets it
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"You are right, however his suspensions for discipline have been well documented in the press. How many chances should he have ?'"
I don't know FC'c policy but I would have thought 2 written warnings and a final warning so this would have been his last chance.
Either way I back Agar on whichever call he makes.
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| Must just be me, he is a good player, but no where near a class act, he is far too inconsistent, and at 25yrs old you expect consistency. I consider players of the calibre of Rangi Chase as class act, not Tansey.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"some help were not qualified to give off it!!'"
As a club FC can access the type of help Tansey needs, I'd imagine the problem is that he doesn't want the help, in order to change an individual has to want to.
And I have no doubt Ogre said he's a talented kid, but I am fairly sure he'll have continued along the vein "shame he's a total pr1ck"
He isn't a nice kid, his behaviour precludes that being the case, if he was a decent kid then he'd have learnt his lessons and would really appreciate the opportunities and luxuries his employment affords him.
Maybe in 6 months time when he's getting up at 5am to go and do some low paid manual job he'll learn his lesson.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Yup. Easy decisions get a lot of businesses and sports clubs into a mess further down the line.'"
Wayne rooney is doing ok at present ??
Eric cantona was warned for drinking plus other things at Man UTD
Steve Norton went missing for three days prior to a test match in Oz and turned up the night before the first test to play a blinder
not being argumentative but sometimes you have to have a wider less judgmental view when dealing with sportsmen who have the X factor because they do not come along many times
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Must just be me, he is a good player, but no where near a class act, he is far too inconsistent, and at 25yrs old you expect consistency. I consider players of the calibre of Rangi Chase as class act, not Tansey.'"
You did realise you have just made a huge contradiction there don't you? Chase is very inconsistent, he can be brilliant but can be invisible too.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"There is no argument jake, I know you know and he knows he has been a minge but that doesnt change the fact he is a class act on the field that just needs some help were not qualified to give off it!!'"
It's obviously had a profound effect on him given that he was spotted out at the weekend in leeds out of his head again
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I don't know FC'c policy but I would have thought 2 written warnings and a final warning so this would have been his last chance.
Either way I back Agar on whichever call he makes.'"
I confused myself as to what warning he is on now
Like yourself I will back the club.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Yeah I accept that it comes with a risk but if sack him now we are short for the whole season and not just for that one game you mention. I personally would have given him one more shot but I can see why would choose not to.'"
Problem is it wouldnt just be one game its the fact that Agar and coaching team will always have to second guess just incase he does it again no doubt when.
He has had enough chances and reports of him out in Leeds again this weekend show he aint gonna change, jeez he's had 12 months to sort it.
Ok we may be left short but we know what we are facing rather than wondering with Tansety back in the ranks. For all his attacking ability it for me is far out weighed by his lack of professional ability off the field and in Whiting we have a player who will do whatever it takes for the good of the club and I think would prove to be a good Fb given a run at the role. He may not have the pace of Tansey but he has a very good rugby brain and is at least able to attempt to take the ball on the full instead of letting it bounce.
Tansey for me has shown and complete lack of respect for the club, board, players and fans and should be told he is no longer wanted and shown the door anything other just gives the green light for players to do as they like.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Are you his sponsor?'"
If i had the sort of cash to sponsor him i would be spending more to help him without a doubt !!
but because i care for the lad as a pro it does not mean i condone his issues either as i certainly do not ...
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Wayne rooney is doing ok at present ??
Eric cantona was warned for drinking plus other things at Man UTD
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not being argumentative but sometimes you have to have a wider less judgmental view when dealing with sportsmen who have the X factor because they do not come along many times'"
You're not really comparing tansey to any of those 3 are you?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You did realise you have just made a huge contradiction there don't you? Chase is very inconsistent, he can be brilliant but can be invisible too.'"
Maybe I have, but Chase is not as inconsistent as Tansey imo , Chase can and does rip teams apart with his play. Tansey has set up and scored some good tries but he has not ripped teams apart.
Tnasey looks good in a team with very few creative players on the pitch..Let us not forget Leeds got rid if he had that much potential they would have kept him.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Tansey has set up and scored some good tries but he has not ripped teams apart.
Tnasey looks good in a team with very few creative players on the pitch..Let us not forget Leeds got rid if he had that much potential they would have kept him.'"
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"If i had the sort of cash to sponsor him i would be spending more to help him without a doubt !!
but because i care for the lad as a pro it does not mean i condone his issues either as i certainly do not ...'"
I meant in an AA sense. Just wondered if he'd poured his heart out at a meeting you were at
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's obviously had a profound effect on him given that he was spotted out at the weekend in leeds out of his head again'"
I cannot comment on rumours that are written to back up an argument but if this was the case let me put it to you this way..
if an AC or addict loses his job does that change the habit???
No the only way is to get help but the monsters that drag you to drink keep you away from that ...
There also has to be said his circle of friends has always been in question as well and they clearly do not care for him either or they would be advising and helping
but obviously as someone says he was in leeds out of his head at the weekend it must be true!!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You're not really comparing tansey to any of those 3 are you?'"
no but using them as examples
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I meant in an AA sense. Just wondered if he'd poured his heart out at a meeting you were at'"
I myself was cabbaged at the weekend at a wedding with some of the lads as were i am sure many in rugby league, however i have never been to AA but a close member of my family did go to AA and with help from the family they broke the habit of binge drinking that they could not do alone, does that answer your question ??
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"no but using them as examples'"
There are many more examples of people who act responsibly with respect for others
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