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| Quote ="HU8HFC"Having thinking about the news which broke over the weekend, i certainly think they are positives in the appointment of Myler.
Firstly, we didn't have a DoR previously, that in itself means it is an upgrade on what we had before. It allows AP and the DJ to get on with which, to their credit, they are actually good at, which is further sourcing marketing and further investment etc. Fresh out the game, Myler has been a part of several big and successful clubs, meaning he knows what foundations are needed to build from. I would also like to think that Myler is well connected, he's been around the modern game for a long time and would be able to reach out to recruitment targets on both sides of the world. I quite like the fact that he has no connection to Hull prior to this appointment, with completely fresh ideas. There is also the investment which appears may come hand in hand with his appointment.
Of course, the elephant in the room is that this is a complete rogue appointment , in which it will be Mylers first off-file job at a club, and talk about been chucked in the deep end. This is arguably the hardest job in Rugby League currently, the task at hand is colossal, could it be too much to handle for someone who has zero experience in being in this role?
Overall, its certainly one that's caught peoples attention, he will have the support from the vast majority of us. I am hopeful that he is given the funds to properly help in rebuilding this club.'"
Its a joke and nepotism at its worst.
DOR in the clubs position is probably now the most important role in the club.
May as well have asked Gaz Ellis if he was interested
If you are looking for someone who is well known in the game and commands respect do you go for Ritchie Myler or someone like Gaz Ellis
I know who i would prefer but he doesnt come with a pot of money.
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"Head a rumour of Danny McGuire yesterday, but can't see it as it was only a few months ago that he thought he wasn't ready for a Head Coach position.
Seeing Andy Last's name up there reminded me of what I heard yesterday, about his son's. Apparently he has 2 son's playing at U14's level (I might have that wrong), but every SL club wants them - they are meant to be very good. However, they won't sign for a club until they are 16. Lasty has said it's up to them where they go, he will leave it to them, and if they want to come to Hull, that's fine. Apparently Leeds want to sign them now, and have offered Scholarship terms, and would only need to train once a week, but they have said no.'"
id leave it till the last minute
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| Quote ="bonaire"Its a joke and nepotism at its worst.
DOR in the clubs position is probably now the most important role in the club.
May as well have asked Gaz Ellis if he was interested
If you are looking for someone who is well known in the game and commands respect do you go for Ritchie Myler or someone like Gaz Ellis
I know who i would prefer but he doesnt come with a pot of money.'"
You are forgetting Gaz Ellis did the role already when he first retired and didn't take to it, which is why he joined the coaching staff.
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| Quote ="Roam Ranger"You are forgetting Gaz Ellis did the role already when he first retired and didn't take to it, which is why he joined the coaching staff.'"
This^^^^^^
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| I’m confused- Is Keef really Bonaire, or is Bonaire really Keef?
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| Our usual announcement time is 6pm but Myler was announced early in the day.
I wonder if this keeps the 6pm slot free for some recruitment news.
Probably not, but never know!
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| Quote ="Roam Ranger"You are forgetting Gaz Ellis did the role already when he first retired and didn't take to it, which is why he joined the coaching staff.'"
Yes i forgot about that but the point still stands do you go for a well known well respected ex player like Gaz Ellis or Ritchie Myler because of the pot of cash he comes with.
For Pearson he will follow the cash given his position but from a club point of view and the importance of the position it surely has to be someone in the mold of Gaz Ellis
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"I’m confused- Is Keef really Bonaire, or is Bonaire really Keef?'"
no wonder your irregular
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| Quote ="bonaire"Yes i forgot about that but the point still stands do you go for a well known well respected ex player like Gaz Ellis or Ritchie Myler because of the pot of cash he comes with.
For Pearson he will follow the cash given his position but from a club point of view and the importance of the position it surely has to be someone in the mold of Gaz Ellis'"
At the moment the club need money. It's that simple. Without money we can't even afford to bring on a DOR.
Could have the best DOR in the game (which nobody probably knows who that actually is) at the club but if they've got no money to work with then they're not going to make an impact anyway. We'll I say that, but whoever is working at Salford seems to be doing well.
Seeing on Twitter that Myler apparently has a degree in Sports Management from Leeds University?
Just give the guy a chance.
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| People forgetting we did the experienced route with McRae too under Pearson that wasn't the most successful tenure - some very questionable signings during that period
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| Quote ="Hasbag"At the moment the club need money. It's that simple. Without money we can't even afford to bring on a DOR.
Could have the best DOR in the game (which nobody probably knows who that actually is) at the club but if they've got no money to work with then they're not going to make an impact anyway. We'll I say that, but whoever is working at Salford seems to be doing well.
Seeing on Twitter that Myler apparently has a degree in Sports Management from Leeds University?
Just give the guy a chance.'"
Was just about to post the same, we could hire the most experienced Director in the game but if there's no money to sign anyone good what would be the point?
I also think half the 'skill' in the role is having contact numbers in the phone and as a very recent player you'd hope Myler has a few.
I'm also not seeing many suggestions of better plans from those who are criticising. We can't just stumble along on a low budget, the next risk is crowds drop then literally it's a stadium with 3.5 years lease left keeping us in SL on the IMG points
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| Quote ="bonaire"Yes i forgot about that but the point still stands do you go for a well known well respected ex player like Gaz Ellis or Ritchie Myler because of the pot of cash he comes with.
For Pearson he will follow the cash given his position but from a club point of view and the importance of the position it surely has to be someone in the mold of Gaz Ellis'"
Who though?
Ellis didn't enjoy the job and I don't recall a string of star British players or top Aussies queuing up to join us at that time.
Maybe just give Myler a chance as much as it goes against your instincts.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Who though?
Ellis didn't enjoy the job and I don't recall a string of star British players or top Aussies queuing up to join us at that time.
Maybe just give Myler a chance as much as it goes against your instincts.'"
They've not got a clue. The game doesn't have an abundance of top experienced RL administrators does it. Just another excuse to whinge.
I can guarantee they'll be the first to moan about the new coaching appointment.
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| Quote ="mwindass"They've not got a clue. The game doesn't have an abundance of top experienced RL administrators does it. Just another excuse to whinge.
I can guarantee they'll be the first to moan about the new coaching appointment.'"
And if Rovers appointed him and we criticised them he would be sticking up for them and using the exact same arguments we are?
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| well that was a surprise wasn't it thanks to Dan Tomlinson breaking the news 48 hours ago no one was caught out by it and the appointment is now official and although many may have reservations it is done and now we will all get behind our new Director of Rugby and wish him well and let him know we support him.
I believe that the club are a little peeved about Dans actions but he's a fan and he will always do the digging and let us have the news good or back as soon as he does and long may that continue. Good Luck Richie part of me thinks that you might need it.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"well that was a surprise wasn't it thanks to Dan Tomlinson breaking the news 48 hours ago no one was caught out by it and the appointment is now official and although many may have reservations it is done and now we will all get behind our new Director of Rugby and wish him well and let him know we support him.
I believe that the club are a little peeved about Dans actions but he's a fan and he will always do the digging and let us have the news good or back as soon as he does and long may that continue. Good Luck Richie part of me thinks that you might need it.'"
Wasn’t it Matt Shaw who wrote the piece on Saturday naming Myler?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Who though?
Ellis didn't enjoy the job and I don't recall a string of star British players or top Aussies queuing up to join us at that time.
Maybe just give Myler a chance as much as it goes against your instincts.'"
I remember we had this discussion about Okunbor and lets give him a chance which i said ok i will.
I havnt a clue who would be available for this role and similarly the player aquisitions we need but just feel we should be making a statement of intent in the signings including the DOR.but it seems this appointment comes with strings.
To bring the criticism by myself of this appointmment to an end on here i will again take your advice and give him a chance.
That said i just dont see any ambition from the club and i feel Pearson is only around now to try and recover his initial investment in the club
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| The key to remember here as well is that he may not have been peoples first choice, may not have even been on most peoples radar, but he's here and he's doing the job. That's a fact that isn't changing. So what's the point in moaning and saying we should have gone for someone more experienced or of a higher stature? We haven't. It might be a mistake in the long run, might be the greatest thing we have ever done, or it might fall somewhere in-between.
We can't predict the future. But what we can do is give the guy our support. Instead of pre-judging him before he's even got started.
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| For me this all looks like it's gonna be the next stage in the mess that is the Pearson era of owning hull FC but......... I'm prepared to support the club if I see more improvements in the playing staff and back room areas.
I was hoping Pearson would be gone, a new owner would come in and the fans would go mad for it like Hull City have done with their owner. I imagined the mkm with 15000+ fans in knowing our current team is e but still going to show support at a new beginning. Instead it's a bit of a damp squib so far, us fans need more than just an inexperienced dor to bring back the enthusiasm but for now I'll get on board and keep my fingers crossed
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"For me this all looks like it's gonna be the next stage in the mess that is the Pearson era of owning hull FC but......... I'm prepared to support the club if I see more improvements in the playing staff and back room areas.
I was hoping Pearson would be gone, a new owner would come in and the fans would go mad for it like Hull City have done with their owner. I imagined the mkm with 15000+ fans in knowing our current team is poop but still going to show support at a new beginning. Instead it's a bit of a damp squib so far, us fans need more than just an inexperienced dor to bring back the enthusiasm but for now I'll get on board and keep my fingers crossed'"
It's only a damp squib to you and anybody else who set there expectations unrealistically high based on foundless social media rumours.
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| Quote ="davey41"Wasn’t it Matt Shaw who wrote the piece on Saturday naming Myler?'"
Yes it was.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"It's only a damp squib to you and anybody else who set there expectations unrealistically high based on foundless social media rumours.'"
Plus these kind of things no doubt take time. We can't just click our fingers and everything's suddenly changed, particularly when it comes to ownership/investment. We've no idea how far along investment is (personally I think it's further along than Pearson let on in his interview) but no one was ever going to just waltz up with a wad load of cash, ask for a pen, sign a contract, and it's all done and dusted. There'll be all sorts of processes involved.
And even if we suddenly find ourselves swimming in cash with a potential new owner/investor on board, that doesn't mean we are suddenly in a position to go out and get the very best be it a DOR, coach, backroom staff or players. There's still going to be a lot of work to do to convince people to join us and show them that we are club and a project to get excited about. So maybe we have to temper expectations and accept some trade offs right now as part of the building blocks for a new era.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"well that was a surprise wasn't it thanks to Dan Tomlinson breaking the news 48 hours ago no one was caught out by it and the appointment is now official and although many may have reservations it is done and now we will all get behind our new Director of Rugby and wish him well and let him know we support him.
I believe that the club are a little peeved about Dans actions but he's a fan and he will always do the digging and let us have the news good or back as soon as he does and long may that continue. Good Luck Richie part of me thinks that you might need it.'"
It was suggested that Pearson was a bit cheesed off with Dan/HDM around accusations of us not spending the full cap. This obviously come up in his interview on Humberside and it was the only question he seemed rattled by.
It's obvious that if we're spending full cap, which Pearson is adamant we are, it's horrendously bent out of shape.
I'm glad we've started to make moves to solve this. As good as Clarke and Pearson are on the commercial side of the club, they shouldn't be anywhere near the football side. I'm sure Myler will make some mistakes a long the way, but I'm pretty confident he can't assemble a worse squad than we've got now.
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| Quote ="barham red"Your more likely to get Andi Peters and him bringing Edd the Duck as assistant'"
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| Quote ="bonaire"id leave it till the last minute'" do you think tinkering tony was given a fair shot considering the financial restraints or is he just a bufoon?
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