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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"I honestly cant see how the season can restart - I think its game over for this season and longer term i think the game is on a knife edge for survival'"
Sadly I think you are correct. I cannot see us back at the KCOM watching games this year. Aside from the issue of social distancing for supporters how can games takes place without every player/coach/physio/match official being tested for Covid-19. The update from France today plus the issue of rearranging 'home' games for Toronto makes the chances of completing the season highly improbable.
Very dark days for rugby league, some clubs won't survive and we may end up back as a part time sport.
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| I think if we have to wait until next February for matchday income the club in its current guise will fold. Not being dramatic, just my honest view.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I think if we have to wait until next February for matchday income the club in its current guise will fold. Not being dramatic, just my honest view.'"
For once.......... i agree
Unless Pearson can get the fans on board to plough in big money with little or no return - perhaps a share issue?
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| Quote ="ccs"France has banned all sporting events, including behind closed doors, until September.'"
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| McNamara says Catalans will base themselves in England if they have to.Catalans owner must have agreed to it
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"McNamara says Catalans will base themselves in England if they have to.Catalans owner must have agreed to it'"
Will they move all their players, coaching and medical staff and their families over here for a few months? That's some undertaking.
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Just signed up for the lottery
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| Alot of doom merchants on at the minute.
Im pretty sure Adam, our fans and everyone involved will do there upmost to ensure our club doesnt go bust
We had the proposal only a week or two ago about playing games behind closed doors but using pay per views to honour the broadcasting deal, keeping the current funds recieved by sky, as well as the extra momey for clubs due to pay per view income. Say 20,000 (rough estimate) people pay £8 to watch a game thats £160k a game recieved. I wouldnt like to guess how many fans would pay to watch but i think itd be possibly higher than 20k due to the lack of sport and the ease of how you can watch at home.
There will be ways around this, so the predictions of going bust are a bit premature in my opinion. I think an abit more positivity is needed
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Just signed up for the lottery'"
I’m going to sign up for that as well I think. Seems a more affordable way of doing something.
My pass is paid monthly but they can have that. Watching any games will be a bonus.
Wish I could do more, but like everyone it’s not an easy time at the moment.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Alot of doom merchants on at the minute.
Im pretty sure Adam, our fans and everyone involved will do there upmost to ensure our club doesnt go bust
We had the proposal only a week or two ago about playing games behind closed doors but using pay per views to honour the broadcasting deal, keeping the current funds recieved by sky, as well as the extra momey for clubs due to pay per view income. Say 20,000 (rough estimate) people pay £8 to watch a game thats £160k a game recieved. I wouldnt like to guess how many fans would pay to watch but i think itd be possibly higher than 20k due to the lack of sport and the ease of how you can watch at home.
There will be ways around this, so the predictions of going bust are a bit premature in my opinion. I think an abit more positivity is needed'"
Bills to pay and the bank refusing a loan. That's when companies go bust.
I'd imagine Mr Allam will be demanding his rental charges, games or no games.
He'll get away with it because he'll say city are paying theirs, which in practice, make no financial difference to him.
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| Im pretty sure funds can be raised, thats when companies dont go bust.
Some positive news
The VPs have proudly donated £5,000 to @hullfcofficial and will work with @FCVoices and the club to support it further.
The association will also work tirelessly with supporters in any fundraising ventures the club suggests after yesterday’s announcement. #IAKOW #Oldfaithful
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| I think Mrs B’s virtual ticketing idea is worth looking at ?
Also somebody suggested on Facebook a “pay now, play later” friendly with Rovers . Sell the tickets. Split the proceeds between the 2 Clubs.
Play it at a later date for the Clive Sullivan trophy .
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"I think Mrs B’s virtual ticketing idea is worth looking at ?
Also somebody suggested on Facebook a “pay now, play later” friendly with Rovers . Sell the tickets. Split the proceeds between the 2 Clubs.
Play it at a later date for the Clive Sullivan trophy .'" Sounds like a great idea, and maybe you know who could waive the rental of the ground.
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| Quote ="ccs"Sounds like a great idea, and maybe you know who could waive the rental of the ground.'"
Play it over the river as not a chance Allam Jnr will wave the stadium fee.Ive no doubt Allam Snr would be happy to help at this time,with what is going on,but Ehab only interested in ££££££
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Play it over the river as not a chance Allam Jnr will wave the stadium fee.Ive no doubt Allam Snr would be happy to help at this time,with what is going on,but Ehab only interested in ££££££'"
That would halve the gate and income, not really the object of a fundraiser.
Put a minimum charge on the tickets, that would allow people who wanted to, to invest more without any effort.
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| Quote ="ccs"That would halve the gate and income, not really the object of a fundraiser.
Put a minimum charge on the tickets, that would allow people who wanted to, to invest more without any effort.'"
The gate money on the previous pre season matches v HKR have always been shared so it wouldn’t be any different apart from possibly playing the game over there for free rather than pay Ehab money mad a fee to use the KCOM
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"The gate money on the previous pre season matches v HKR have always been shared so it wouldn’t be any different apart from possibly playing the game over there for free rather than pay Ehab money mad a fee to use the KCOM'"
The KCOM holds twice as many people, so a huge differenc. If Mr Allam wants to charge 12k x £25 (£300k) to play then we might as well give up now.
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| In the event the club were to go out of business, what do people think could be a newco scenario? In normal circumstances (Bradford) there'd be a requirement to restart in the 3rd tier as semi pro, but if we went bust I doubt we'd be on our own. Any thoughts on the future landscape? Also where would we play?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"In the event the club were to go out of business, what do people think could be a newco scenario? In normal circumstances (Bradford) there'd be a requirement to restart in the 3rd tier as semi pro, but if we went bust I doubt we'd be on our own. Any thoughts on the future landscape? Also where would we play?'"
So many variables, it is impossible to say with any certainty at all. Like, who’d be leading the newco? What would be the structure of professional RL?
As you say, if Hull went they probably wouldn’t go alone. Assuming the newco inherited the goodwill of the fans, then I suspect a top flight place would ‘just’ depend on retaining use of the current stadium.
If I had to bet on it, I’d bet against it getting that far - but with far from complete confidence.
Could mothballing be an option if it looks like play won’t return for an unsustainable period?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"So many variables, it is impossible to say with any certainty at all. Like, who’d be leading the newco? What would be the structure of professional RL?
As you say, if Hull went they probably wouldn’t go alone. Assuming the newco inherited the goodwill of the fans, then I suspect a top flight place would ‘just’ depend on retaining use of the current stadium.
If I had to bet on it, I’d bet against it getting that far - but with far from complete confidence.
Could mothballing be an option if it looks like play won’t return for an unsustainable period?'"
The incorporation and shareholding would be a big one - no idea who'd be interested but it would be debt free I guess. The stadium is a massive issue. The SMC contract would be null and void I guess, and whilst on the face of it the Allams would be delighted to see the back of us, maybe they are having troubles also - not following City's current covid-19 position but in the event they went pop too that would be a different situation again. Literally no idea where we would play if not at the KCOM. Costello, Ionians? Neither great options and doubt the council will have the means or appetite to support us.
Structure of RL would be challengng - only a few likely to be insulated by benefactors so not enough for a meaningful top flight competition. As you mentioned before I reckon some might take the risk of going under and reforming rather than saving the oldco.
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| I don't think that at SL level there will be some who survive (as a full time professional team) and others who don't.
I think it will be all or none.
Sure some clubs may still be financially ok when we get back to playing, but I don't think SL can survive without a decent Sky deal, and we need a decent product to get that deal.
SL needs (imho) at least 12 competitive teams.
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| Definitely going to change the landscape of the game.
One governing body?
Change in structure again?
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