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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"As I’ve said a proper replacement for motu Tony is crucial especially with a squad rebuild on the horizon but it looks like we’ve missed the boat'"
Its better to have an established Aussie coach in place who can also attract overseas players. |
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| Quote ="bonaire"Its better to have an established Aussie coach in place who can also attract overseas players.'"
some posters keep banging on about the "Aussie" thing, why does nationality come into it, when did we last WIN anything with an Aussie in charge? |
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"some posters keep banging on about the "Aussie" thing, why does nationality come into it, when did we last WIN anything with an Aussie in charge?'"
Stop appointing assistants and actually appoint a proper head coach and his team and we might find out |
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"some posters keep banging on about the "Aussie" thing, why does nationality come into it, when did we last WIN anything with an Aussie in charge?'"
Haven't the last 8 major trophies have been won by:
McDermott - British 3
Radford - British 2
Wane - British 2
McNamara - British 1
I also don't think you get many "established Aussie coaches" here if that's taken as current NRL head coaches and for those that come, more fail than succeed (obviously, only 2 major trophies up for grabs and 12 coaches  ). |
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Haven't the last 8 major trophies have been won by:
McDermott - British 3
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Wane - British 2
McNamara - British 1
I also don't think you get many "established Aussie coaches" here if that's taken as current NRL head coaches and for those that come, more fail than succeed (obviously, only 2 major trophies up for grabs and 12 coaches
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100% on the money |
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The other point to note is the relative cost of these established NRL coaches and their backroom teams. The NRL has had to impose a cap on spend on football departments- excluding player salaries; the average club spend is 6.3 million Aus dollars or £3.4m. Little wonder we see so few genuine top current Aussie coaches here. Craig Bellamy for example is on $1.7m p.a.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.co ... xpi4i.html
Obviously you can dip into the assistant / out of work ex coaching pool. Again, sometimes this works and if it does they're off back to Aus pretty quickly. More often it doesn't, obviously. Not to say it's a bad idea, just pointing out that making the generalisation that this would guarantee improvement is flawed. |
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The other point to note is the relative cost of these established NRL coaches and their backroom teams. The NRL has had to impose a cap on spend on football departments- excluding player salaries; the average club spend is 6.3 million Aus dollars or £3.4m. Little wonder we see so few genuine top current Aussie coaches here. Craig Bellamy for example is on $1.7m p.a.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.co ... xpi4i.html
Obviously you can dip into the assistant / out of work ex coaching pool. Again, sometimes this works and if it does they're off back to Aus pretty quickly. More often it doesn't, obviously. Not to say it's a bad idea, just pointing out that making the generalisation that this would guarantee improvement is flawed. | |
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"some posters keep banging on about the "Aussie" thing, why does nationality come into it, when did we last WIN anything with an Aussie in charge?'"
1990? |
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| Quote ="Darrell"1990?'"
Yeah, think so, Smith then Cleal, 29 years ago! |
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"Yeah, think so, Smith then Cleal, 29 years ago!'"
Sharpe got us to Old Trafford. I know it’s not a tick in the win box. |
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Sharpe got us to Old Trafford. I know it’s not a tick in the win box.'"
We know how well that went!
Any appointment should be ability, not nationality, based. (in my view) |
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"The other point to note is the relative cost of these established NRL coaches and their backroom teams. The NRL has had to impose a cap on spend on football departments- excluding player salaries; the average club spend is 6.3 million Aus dollars or £3.4m. Little wonder we see so few genuine top current Aussie coaches here. Craig Bellamy for example is on $1.7m p.a.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.co ... xpi4i.html
Obviously you can dip into the assistant / out of work ex coaching pool. Again, sometimes this works and if it does they're off back to Aus pretty quickly. More often it doesn't, obviously. Not to say it's a bad idea, just pointing out that making the generalisation that this would guarantee improvement is flawed.'"
Well the ones that are here are not doing so bad are they,top two teams by a mile.
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"The other point to note is the relative cost of these established NRL coaches and their backroom teams. The NRL has had to impose a cap on spend on football departments- excluding player salaries; the average club spend is 6.3 million Aus dollars or £3.4m. Little wonder we see so few genuine top current Aussie coaches here. Craig Bellamy for example is on $1.7m p.a.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.co ... xpi4i.html
Obviously you can dip into the assistant / out of work ex coaching pool. Again, sometimes this works and if it does they're off back to Aus pretty quickly. More often it doesn't, obviously. Not to say it's a bad idea, just pointing out that making the generalisation that this would guarantee improvement is flawed.'"
Well the ones that are here are not doing so bad are they,top two teams by a mile.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Well the ones that are here are not doing so bad are they,top two teams by a mile.
Leeds and Huddersfield on the up also'"
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| Quote ="bonaire"Well the ones that are here are not doing so bad are they,top two teams by a mile.'"
Five of the bottom six have a head coach from Down Under. |
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Given some of Hulls results over the past 12 months it's fairly obvious that Radfords position will be under scrutiny. Same with Sheen's across the river.
Worth noting though that on the Forty 20 live podcast last night, a journalist claimed/stated that a big off field story is about to break at Hull FC that will be having a destabilising effect.
In short, we don't always know the circumstances that a coach is working under. Best to maybe cut a bit of slack until the news emerges.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Given some of Hulls results over the past 12 months it's fairly obvious that Radfords position will be under scrutiny. Same with Sheen's across the river.
Worth noting though that on the Forty 20 live podcast last night, a journalist claimed/stated that a big off field story is about to break at Hull FC that will be having a destabilising effect.
In short, we don't always know the circumstances that a coach is working under. Best to maybe cut a bit of slack until the news emerges.'"
I think 90% of the forum have deduced there’s problems behind the scenes, the problem is without club information, rumours run rife. |
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Given some of Hulls results over the past 12 months it's fairly obvious that Radfords position will be under scrutiny. Same with Sheen's across the river.
Worth noting though that on the Forty 20 live podcast last night, a journalist claimed/stated that a big off field story is about to break at Hull FC that will be having a destabilising effect.
In short, we don't always know the circumstances that a coach is working under. Best to maybe cut a bit of slack until the news emerges.'"
Seemed to me he was alluding to financial issues. |
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Seemed to me he was alluding to financial issues.'"
Like they cant pay to get Hull Fc Live back up and running |
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Given some of Hulls results over the past 12 months it's fairly obvious that Radfords position will be under scrutiny. Same with Sheen's across the river.
Worth noting though that on the Forty 20 live podcast last night, a journalist claimed/stated that a big off field story is about to break at Hull FC that will be having a destabilising effect.
In short, we don't always know the circumstances that a coach is working under. Best to maybe cut a bit of slack until the news emerges.'"
Could he have the wrong club, Crossland has just quit at Rovers? |
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| Quote ="Uffa1964"Could he have the wrong club, Crossland has just quit at Rovers?'"
Now that Crossland has gone, leaving Pearson and Hudgell in sole charge of our respective clubs it is going to be very interesting to see how closely aligned they make us.
My prediction is that inside 12 months both Clubs, along with COHA will be sharing a training base. From there, who knows.. |
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Now that Crossland has gone, leaving Pearson and Hudgell in sole charge of our respective clubs it is going to be very interesting to see how closely aligned they make us.
My prediction is that inside 12 months both Clubs, along with COHA will be sharing a training base. From there, who knows..'"
Wash your mouth out son, don’t even go there. There’s only one place a merger would go, straight down the Humber via a pan. |
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Do we have financial issues? Someone mentioned pearson had said he was looking for investment in the club and he's not been heard of in the media for some time now. Wouldn't surprise me TBH. We've been cutting pretty much every budget at the club for some years now
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The Round Eight Super League games generated an aggregate crowd of 49,992 and an average attendance of 8,332. Last season the Round Eight aggregate was 59,137 with an average of 9,856. That's a drop of 17% with over 1,500 missing supporters at each game. #NewBeginnings
Smaller gates = smaller income. I’m beginning to wonder what our finances are like? Me thinks AP is short on disposable income.
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| Quote ="Plum Bob"The Round Eight Super League games generated an aggregate crowd of 49,992 and an average attendance of 8,332. Last season the Round Eight aggregate was 59,137 with an average of 9,856. That's a drop of 17% with over 1,500 missing supporters at each game. #NewBeginnings
Smaller gates = smaller income. I’m beginning to wonder what our finances are like? Me thinks AP is short on disposable income.'"
Last year's round 8 was the derbies, not a fair comparison.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Do we have financial issues? Someone mentioned pearson had said he was looking for investment in the club and he's not been heard of in the media for some time now. Wouldn't surprise me TBH. We've been cutting pretty much every budget at the club for some years now'"
Here it is Jake, it’s a small paragraph from AP, you can read the full account in the chairman’s notes. Apologies if I’m contravening any forum rules, it’s meant only as reference.
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There is no one presently interested in personally investing to get on the Board of Hull FC. Other clubs such as Warrington and Saints attract investment at Board level, but here at Hull that investment in club shares is very hard to find.” |
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"no one presently interested in personally investing to get on the Board of Hull FC. Other clubs such as Warrington and Saints attract investment at Board level, but here at Hull that investment in club shares is very hard to find.”'"
That does sound a lot like I am sick of bankrolling the club, which explains our recruitment and retention and keeping a cheap coach on. |
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