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| Quote ="Dave K."Looks good, but so do we, I would say our pack including the bench players is stronger, backs pretty even, they have the bud advantage in the halfs though, if we can keep them quite by winning the forward battle we have a chance.
I still fancy Warrington, but I also wouldn't be surprised to see us win it, need to improve on our last 3 games though it they will only be I've winner.'"
Really can't wait for this game and I think that the analysis of most on here is spot on. Jullien has been great for us but I'd sooner be facing your pack with a fully fit Hughes and Westwood
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| Wire bench tells the story of where the team is at. Wire much bigger bench.
If there are questions whether Ellis will play prop, then therein lies the difference between the two teams.
Wire win by 12-18 with home advantage, but I think this will be a high scoring affair for both teams.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"If Sandow breaks our line I fail ymy see why you would single out Carlos when there are other d fenders there also missing him.
What of Sandlow has an absolute blinder of a game but we still win?
Brough has been available for. It's of the season, as has Lui, they don't seem to have had the major impact of ou refer to.
If ere are clearly missing such a key player, just how have we made it 12/13 and to the top of the league?
Your glass is not half empty, it's positively bone dry.
Back on topic, Westwood is a bit miss for them.'"
Talking of glasses its seems by your senseless reply you have had too many already this evening
I am not singling out any of our team i am referring to the impact the half backs named have on their teams when fit.
Its my opinion that to take this team to the next level we need a top 6.
The example is when Brough is playing for Huddersfield they are a very good side.Take out Brough like last week and they are not he same team.
Put Danny Brough into our team and we go up another level
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wire bench tells the story of where the team is at. Wire much bigger bench.
If there are questions whether Ellis will play prop, then therein lies the difference between the two teams.
Wire win by 12-18 with home advantage, but I think this will be a high scoring affair for both teams.'"
Cox & Bailey v frank & Bowden? With washy & Thompson I think our bench is better & bigger our whole pack is better, we have not put a full 80 minute performance in yet, & we are top of the league, it's our to lose imho.
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| reckon it'll be a complete fight for 60 odd minutes then it'll open up. Reckon Scotty T could make the difference running at a tired wire pack.
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| Quote ="the cal train"reckon it'll be a complete fight for 60 odd minutes then it'll open up. Reckon Scotty T could make the difference running at a tired wire pack.'"
Yeh I think he could be to, cant wait to see the battle between him and hill
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| Quote ="fez1"Sandow gets a lot of the plaudits but the underpinnings are from Gidley.
With Westwood (and Hughes) not playing your 2nd row edges ours.
Should be a cracker'"
With all due respect, our 2nd row edges every teams, period!
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Wire bench tells the story of where the team is at. Wire much bigger bench.
If there are questions whether Ellis will play prop, then therein lies the difference between the two teams.
Wire win by 12-18 with home advantage, but I think this will be a high scoring affair for both teams.'"
Ellis plays in a prop style role for the majority of games these days if named at 2nd row or not.
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| I'd like to see all out bombardment of Wire, so I'm going with Hadley & Thompson in the 17 with Washbrook losing out.
it's going to be one hullava bash up and I think one team is going to crack, so I'm going to go us by 16, 34-18.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I'd like to see all out bombardment of Wire, so I'm going with Hadley & Thompson in the 17 with Washbrook losing out.
it's going to be one hullava bash up and I think one team is going to crack, so I'm going to go us by 16, 34-18.
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Like the look of that Knocker, especially the bench, I'd change Hadley for Washbrook and thats it
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| Looking at those two squads, this has the makings of the game of the season by anybodies measure. What a fantastic achievement to be able to say that.
I hope the guys on the field can live up to it and not let the occasion get to them. Massive game for either team. No idea what the result will be, impossible to call.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Talking of glasses its seems by your senseless reply you have had too many already this evening
I am not singling out any of our team i am referring to the impact the half backs named have on their teams when fit.
Its my opinion that to take this team to the next level we need a top 6.
The example is when Brough is playing for Huddersfield they are a very good side.Take out Brough like last week and they are not he same team.
Put Danny Brough into our team and we go up another level'"
Fine, but Brough would take time grow into the position, as would any player coming in. You've written Tuimivave off after three and a half games in the position plus you maintain he had pre season at centre. Pretty sure it was mentioned he'd trained at six and Abdul at loose man. Heyho, AP and Radford seem to know what they're at.
Our pack when fully fit is better than any other, Knockers team selection looks to me like it can do the job. I would go with Hadley starting at loose man, he is the quiet man of our side, he had an excellent game when picked at stand off in a late change, recently. We need to be quick off the mark, no daft penalties, wear them down, keep the pressure on for the full 80, tall order, I know but "I Bel13ve" we can do it, but I'm a glass almost full, type of supporter.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Fine, but Brough would take time grow into the position, as would any player coming in. You've written Tuimivave off after three and a half games in the position plus you maintain he had pre season at centre. Pretty sure it was mentioned he'd trained at six and Abdul at loose man. Heyho, AP and Radford seem to know what they're at.
Our pack when fully fit is better than any other, Knockers team selection looks to me like it can do the job. I would go with Hadley starting at loose man, he is the quiet man of our side, he had an excellent game when picked at stand off in a late change, recently. We need to be quick off the mark, no daft penalties, wear them down, keep the pressure on for the full 80, tall order, I know but "I Bel13ve" we can do it, but I'm a glass almost full, type of supporter.'"
Bumpy's bench selection is sickening. Imagine being the opposition & seeing that lot coming on after 20 minutes of being smashed about by Ellis, Taylor, Mini & Watts.
Hadley, as I've put before, I think is more suited to starting rather than providing impact off the bench.
It's a difficult decision whether to go with Washy in the 17 or not. I think Radford will put him in, but can see the reasons for leaving him out tomorrow.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Talking of glasses its seems by your senseless reply you have had too many already this evening
I am not singling out any of our team i am referring to the impact the half backs named have on their teams when fit.
Its my opinion that to take this team to the next level we need a top 6.
The example is when Brough is playing for Huddersfield they are a very good side.Take out Brough like last week and they are not he same team.
Put Danny Brough into our team and we go up another level'"
A couple of typo's due to being on a small screen phone, hardly a crime, certainly not one to instigate insults
Your example of Brough is flawed. As good a player as he can be, he can also be a disruptive dummy spitter who can break team spirit and become a decent machine. Also, Huddersfields position and performances overall suggests that Brough impact has not been as great as you suggest.
You have singled out CT before he has been given a decent run on the team at 6.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"A couple of typo's due to being on a small screen phone, hardly a crime, certainly not one to instigate insults
Your example of Brough is flawed. As good a player as he can be, he can also be a disruptive dummy spitter who can break team spirit and become a decent machine. Also, Huddersfields position and performances overall suggests that Brough impact has not been as great as you suggest.
You have singled out CT before he has been given a decent run on the team at 6.'"
The real reason Bonaire is singling out CT, is due to his continued hatred for Yeamo
CT to the centres means displacing Yeaman (as Griffin will have one of the spots nailed down), hence Bonaire doesn't want to even think about CT playing at 6 and the subsequent thought of Yeaman still being played at centre. It makes him feel sick. New 6, CT to centre, Yeaman released is his thinking.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"The real reason Bonaire is singling out CT, is due to his continued hatred for Yeamo
CT to the centres means displacing Yeaman (as Griffin will have one of the spots nailed down), hence Bonaire doesn't want to even think about CT playing at 6 and the subsequent thought of Yeaman still being played at centre. It makes him feel sick. New 6, CT to centre, Yeaman released is his thinking.'"
Surely not? Even Bonaire must appreciate Yeamo's improvement this year. Anyhow, Pryce not in the 19, so Radders must have faith in Tuimavave(spell check this time)
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| I can't wait for this one. Warrington edge it on paper but if we turn up then they are on for a tough time.
Can you still pay on the gate at theirs? And does anyone have any parking advice, I usually train it.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Fine, but Brough would take time grow into the position, as would any player coming in. You've written Tuimivave off after three and a half games in the position plus you maintain he had pre season at centre. Pretty sure it was mentioned he'd trained at six and Abdul at loose man. Heyho, AP and Radford seem to know what they're at.
Our pack when fully fit is better than any other, Knockers team selection looks to me like it can do the job. I would go with Hadley starting at loose man, he is the quiet man of our side, he had an excellent game when picked at stand off in a late change, recently. We need to be quick off the mark, no daft penalties, wear them down, keep the pressure on for the full 80, tall order, I know but "I Bel13ve" we can do it, but I'm a glass almost full, type of supporter.'"
Suggest you get your facts correct
Carlos Tuimavave trained all pre season as a left centre and started the season in that position.
I like Carlos as a player but his best position is at left centre on the shoulder of Pritchard
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"The real reason Bonaire is singling out CT, is due to his continued hatred for Yeamo
CT to the centres means displacing Yeaman (as Griffin will have one of the spots nailed down), hence Bonaire doesn't want to even think about CT playing at 6 and the subsequent thought of Yeaman still being played at centre. It makes him feel sick. New 6, CT to centre, Yeaman released is his thinking.'"
WOW thats some theory
Lets make it simple for you,i am not singling out Carlos Tuimavave.I like the player but for me his best position is at left centre where he has more open field to run and use his attacking flair.He also works well with Pritchard.
Simple as that, nothing to do with Yeaman.
Radford had the foresight to see Carlos as a centre and thats where he trained all pre season.
A 6 is a priority for the club if we are to step up another level.
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| Quote ="bonaire"WOW thats some theory
Lets make it simple for you,i am not singling out Carlos Tuimavave.I like the player but for me his best position is at left centre where he has more open field to run and use his attacking flair.He also works well with Pritchard.
Simple as that, nothing to do with Yeaman.
Radford had the foresight to see Carlos as a centre and thats where he trained all pre season.
A 6 is a priority for the club if we are to step up another level.'"
It was always Hulls intention to play Carlos at 6 next year.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"It was always Hulls intention to play Carlos at 6 next year.'"
To be fair, Easthull fc said only a couple of weeks ago, he was always going to be
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"To be fair, Easthull fc said only a couple of weeks ago, he was always going to be Centre'"
I'd take what Easthullfc says with a pinch of salt.
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| I rate Hadley but I think Washy's utility value is vital to a strong bench. A back or Houghton goes down and we're fooked without him.
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| Quote ="the cal train"I rate Hadley but I think Washy's utility value is vital to a strong bench. A back or Houghton goes down and we're fooked without him.
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Same team as I put up
Have to say its been a very very long time, infact don't think I've ever known a time that you looked at a Hull FC team and thought Feck me (in good way) at the interchanges.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Bumpy's bench selection is sickening. Imagine being the opposition & seeing that lot coming on after 20 minutes of being smashed about by Ellis, Taylor, Mini & Watts.
Hadley, as I've put before, I think is more suited to starting rather than providing impact off the bench.
It's a difficult decision whether to go with Washy in the 17 or not. I think Radford will put him in, but can see the reasons for leaving him out tomorrow.'"
I think Hadley has more pace, is a slightly better tackler and better footwork than Washy, i personally think he's being very underused since he came on the scene and needed to be really pushed hard as an individual.
Going with that starting 13 and the 4 on the bench is just an intent of all out warfare, whilst the halves can do their stuff if there is a dominant pack then that usually sets up how things go overall. Smash them from minute one, keep on smashing them with the rotation and like any side under a lot of pressure mentally & physically heads can drop, that Wakey/Wigan result was a prime example.
It's all great in theory but come the day I think we would be massively dissapointed if Warrington win by anything more than a score as we are certainly more than capable of dominating in the forwards at least.
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