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| A few Hull fans are more confident than I am, toughest game so far this year IMO, really wish we didn't have the week off. We should be favourites, but I don't think it will be as easy as some are expecting.
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| Quote ="BD"Christ, a few good wins and you guys are getting a bit big for your boots.
The Cas team this year is pretty much the same as last year and we were 50/50 in our matches, so let's just wait and see. Otherwise it might be a lot of eggs on faces.'"
Hmm yet on your other forum, not on rlfans, the vast majority of your fans think you will win, one even claims we haven't come up against a team with a better defence, no offence but your opening two fixtures against 2 teams tipped to struggle is hardly a case to use, could also be said the oppositions attack was so poor too
Home advantage should just swing it in fcs favour but I expect it to be close
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"That first 13 for Cas looks fairly decent and comparable to ours, but our bench and home advantage should see us through (hopefully).
Bookies have us -8.'"
It's the bench that will be the key all season if we can keep fit, Washy is a good player but every team in SL would love to have Ellis and Frank sat on their bench
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| Quote ="BD"Christ, a few good wins and you guys are getting a bit big for your boots.
The Cas team this year is pretty much the same as last year and we were 50/50 in our matches, so let's just wait and see. Otherwise it might be a lot of eggs on faces.'"
Nothing to do with getting to big for our boots. I think we'll win by a couple of scores or more, it's an opinion that's all.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Nothing to do with getting to big for our boots. I think we'll win by a couple of scores or more, it's an opinion that's all.'"
Exactly, its an opinion.
The same on the Cas forum who are saying that their 'Mobile' and 'Fit' forwards will outweigh our strong pack, and then their ball movement will get around us.
I think we will win by 18, it isn't an arrogant or over-confident prediction, I just think that the KC will be a fortress this year and our bench will be stronger and see us to the victory.
The same way, I think that Wigan will beat us next week
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Nothing to do with getting to big for our boots. I think we'll win by a couple of scores or more, it's an opinion that's all.'"
All of the bookies agree so they must all be unrealistically optimistic too. Such arrogance from our lowly club to believe we stand a chance at home against the unstoppable might of Castleford.
Personally I think we will lose but that's mostly because my brain doesn't believe in optimism.
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| If we play to our potential we will win but consistency has been our problem for years now.
The players (and some fans) must not be complacent or over-confident. If we lose it will be a big reality check. If we then lose to Wigan too it will be back to the usual doom and gloom.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"All of the bookies agree so they must all be unrealistically optimistic too. Such arrogance from our lowly club to believe we stand a chance at home against the unstoppable might of Castleford.
Personally I think we will lose but that's mostly because my brain doesn't believe in optimism.'"
Oh mate do you really think that comment was me calling us 'mighty and unstoppable'? We are talking about a Cas fan here, fans who's seen more drubbings, nillings and relegations than the fair majority. This bubble could burst at any time.
A club with your funding, fan base and stadium is never 'lowly'! Cream always rises to the top, which is whats happening with you this season, however it is still unfair to write us off after a few good games on your end. We'll see what happens.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23":ydii29xuI predict crooks to get 2 or 3[
Not really sure why some have rose tinted glasses when it comes to Ben Crooks, he really isn't all that.
He scored a few tries for is in 2013 on the basis of running into gaps created by others. Did he really create that many? He has reasonable but not blistering pace.
I'd be surprised if Crooks get 3 tries.
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| Ha. Sorry, I over did the sarcasm there.
I don't think anyone should be writing you off but I can see why some fans would be feeling optimistic. I think the 8 to 10 start bookies are giving you is about right and reflects home advantage and our form.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Fair point, although Micheals did struggle against Richards (Although most wingers would struggle to stop him at that range).
I worry about Solomona's pace against Micheals though, he is lightning could get around Micheals.'"
I think Michaels gets unfair criticism at times.
His defence is very good as are his carries.If Micheals is put in the clear there are not many will catch him.
The problem we have on the right edge is not Michaels its the long cut out pass which both Salford and Catalans used.Unfortunately we have Pryce defending next to Logan and they both jump the line at times which creates the space and leaves the winger with little option.
I dont think Michaels struggled against against Richards at all but just who would have stopped him 2 metres from the line with a clear run.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"I actually believe we will win comfortably. This Cas side isn't as good as the last few seasons imo (they drew with KR!!).'"
The difference is they should be playing an a dry pitch which suits their style so will be dangerous.
That said we should be too strong for them.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Exactly, its an opinion.
The same on the Cas forum who are saying that their 'Mobile' and 'Fit' forwards will outweigh our strong pack, and then their ball movement will get around us.
I think we will win by 18, it isn't an arrogant or over-confident prediction, I just think that the KC will be a fortress this year and our bench will be stronger and see us to the victory.
The same way, I think that Wigan will beat us next week'"
I think people forget our forwards are not just big but also very mobile and Fit
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Exactly, its an opinion.
The same on the Cas forum who are saying that their 'Mobile' and 'Fit' forwards will outweigh our strong pack, and then their ball movement will get around us.
I think we will win by 18, it isn't an arrogant or over-confident prediction, I just think that the KC will be a fortress this year and our bench will be stronger and see us to the victory.
The same way, I think that Wigan will beat us next week'"
reading some of the posts on their other forum, i think it is their fans who are over confident, must have helped playing the two weakest teams in the league to start off!
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| Quote ="BD"Christ, a few good wins and you guys are getting a bit big for your boots.
The Cas team this year is pretty much the same as last year and we were 50/50 in our matches, so let's just wait and see. Otherwise it might be a lot of eggs on faces.'"
whoa there! its one posters opinion not the opinion of all our fans! look at any forum prior to a game and it will be fun of fans who think their team will win. nothing wrong with posters being confident and optimistic. no doubt plenty of cas fans feel the same about their team. based on the evidence so far you have started pretty well, though when you look at the games so far we have:
cas draw with rovers
cas beat wakey easily
wakey beat rovers
topsy turvy at best
personally i think its too early to draw too many conclusions about form, effect of recruitment etc (i prefer to wait until around the 10 game mark). however with home advantage i think we'll win a pretty close and exciting game
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| Quote ="number 6"Hmm yet on your other forum, not on rlfans, the vast majority of your fans think you will win, one even claims we haven't come up against a team with a better defence, no offence but your opening two fixtures against 2 teams tipped to struggle is hardly a case to use, could also be said the oppositions attack was so poor too
Home advantage should just swing it in fcs favour but I expect it to be close'"
That would be my post on Casforum. I wasn't really thinking about our previous two games, more the previous two seasons, during which time our defence has been significantly better than Salford's and Catalans'. That might change this year, but I doubt many would argue otherwise at the moment.
I think the game could go one of three ways. Both teams are capable of getting away to a dominant start, and if either team gets momentum and turns it into points we could see the game finished as a contest by half time. Alternatively, it could be very close at half time. If this is the case I think Cas will edge it with the experience of winning tight games in the second half regularly last year ( though we did mess up at KR).
It's an interesting test for Crooks. Don't be surprised if we play Webster on Pritchard's side to add some size and strength there rather than Crooks. Our pack is certainly not going to roll over ( I hope) and Mike McMeekan has been massive in defence for us so far this year, he'll certainly go after Pritchard and Ellis with some aggression.
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| Yeah I bet Pritchard and Ellis are having nightmares about facing THE Mike mcmeekan...
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| Well as a Cas fan I think and hope it will be a cracking game, I can see that you and Warrington are looking good for this year and think we will all be pushing the top four. As for Thursdays game you've hit the ground running and I think you will probably have too much for us , we had a bad start , a draw at KR and the loss of Shenton for the season , we were good in spells against Wakefield but we still have work to do ! As for you lot getting too big for your boots ! If we had that start to the season I would expect you lot to be shaking in them boots LOL.
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| Quote ="Hullfc-white"Yeah I bet Pritchard and Ellis are having nightmares about facing THE Mike mcmeekan...'"
I doubt they are. However, if they take your dismissive attitude they are in for a serious shock. McMeekan has been outstanding in the tackle towards the back end of last year and even better at the start of this season (albeit we are only two games in).
He is still very young, if he continues to develop he is going to be a top drawer forward and you underestimate him at your peril.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I doubt they are. However, if they take your dismissive attitude they are in for a serious shock. McMeekan has been outstanding in the tackle towards the back end of last year and even better at the start of this season (albeit we are only two games in).
He is still very young, if he continues to develop he is going to be a top drawer forward and you underestimate him at your peril.'"
Why would the ultra professional Pritchard and Ellis take my dismissive attitude? You were the one who said he would 'go after' them?..As for Webster as a defensive rock...Jesus!
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| Quote ="Hullfc-white"Why would the ultra professional Pritchard and Ellis take my dismissive attitude? You were the one who said he would 'go after' them?..As for Webster as a defensive rock...Jesus!'"
Maybe my post was unclear. I don't think he will specifically target them but he certainly won't shirk the physicality they have to their game.
Re Webster, you either watch a different game to me or have some kind of biased view of him as an ex KR player. I've yet to see anyone score easy tries down Webster's channel nor dominate him in the tackle.
I'm looking forward to the game. We miss very few tackles but your offensive play looks very good his year so it will be an interesting contest.
Out of interest, how has Sneyd gone so far this year? Always thought he could be a very good half but didn't have the team to work with last year.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I doubt they are. However, if they take your dismissive attitude they are in for a serious shock. McMeekan has been outstanding in the tackle towards the back end of last year and even better at the start of this season (albeit we are only two games in).
He is still very young, if he continues to develop he is going to be a top drawer forward and you underestimate him at your peril.'"
I like McMeeken, looks a talent and I expect him to delevop into a really good player under Powell.
Looking forward to this game. Two exciting teams on the evidence of what we have done this year and what Cas have done for the last couple of seasons. I am confident we will win, I just think we have a bit too much fire power for Cas who do have a couple of players I think we can get at. The bench is the key for me, to be able to bring on Frank, Ellis and Bowden against a team just starting to tire is a real key threat.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I like McMeeken, looks a talent and I expect him to delevop into a really good player under Powell.
Looking forward to this game. Two exciting teams on the evidence of what we have done this year and what Cas have done for the last couple of seasons. I am confident we will win, I just think we have a bit too much fire power for Cas who do have a couple of players I think we can get at. The bench is the key for me, to be able to bring on Frank, Ellis and Bowden against a team just starting to tire is a real key threat.'"
Interestingly, Powell often uses a similar tactic of bringing on all our four substitutes at once around the 20 minute mark. Wouldn't surprise me if we went with Moors, Millington, Lynch and Milner on the bench tomorrow and introducing them as a quartet after putting in the hard graft for the first twenty.
I would definitely be targeting Crooks as our weak link, as yet he hasn't looked too bad but hasn't really had much to do defensively.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Maybe my post was unclear. I don't think he will specifically target them but he certainly won't shirk the physicality they have to their game.
Re Webster, you either watch a different game to me or have some kind of biased view of him as an ex KR player. I've yet to see anyone score easy tries down Webster's channel nor dominate him in the tackle.
I'm looking forward to the game. We miss very few tackles but your offensive play looks very good his year so it will be an interesting contest.
Out of interest, how has Sneyd gone so far this year? Always thought he could be a very good half but didn't have the team to work with last year.'"
I've been really pleased with Sneyd so far. It's obviously easier to play well as a 7 when the pack is dominating, but he looks full of ideas, his passing has been crisp and accurate and he just generally seems to have a bit of spring in his step that we rarely saw last year. I also thought that when Pryce was sin binned last week he really stood up and took control of what could have been an awkward period for us. His job is also made easier by having centres who can make things happen without it needing to be put on a plate for them. I think Westerman leaving could end up being the best bit of business we did this off season. I did like Westy, but with him not playing first receiver looks to have given us a more varied, slightly off the cuff attack, and that suits Sneyd down to the ground.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I like McMeeken, looks a talent and I expect him to delevop into a really good player under Powell.
Looking forward to this game. Two exciting teams on the evidence of what we have done this year and what Cas have done for the last couple of seasons. I am confident we will win, I just think we have a bit too much fire power for Cas who do have a couple of players I think we can get at. The bench is the key for me, to be able to bring on Frank, Ellis and Bowden against a team just starting to tire is a real key threat.'"
Yeh I agree , looks a very good player, I like him. I'm feeling a little nervous for this one, really looking forward to it, think it will be won in the last 10, cas by 2, 30-28.
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