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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Good bit of business you don't often get fees nowadays and its a good one for a winger who can be replaced internally Lancaster won't be your long term replacement though as he is definitely leaving when his contract is up'"
Who has he signed for and when?
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"People talk a lot about Lancaster, i liked him last year, looked like he had bags of potential.
How much has LR picked him this year?'"
Think he played only once, but is only 18, plenty of time to develop.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Think he played only once, but is only 18, plenty of time to develop.'" ... and he's only played about 6 games for the U19's.
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| Anyone who believes that contracted players won't leave the club under any circumstances is kidding themselves.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Accountants shouldnt run a business'"
Fans shouldn't stay away and deprive their club of income streams.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Fans shouldn't stay away and deprive their club of income streams.'"
Do you think a supermarket or a bank could use that argument?
If clubs are run as businesses then shouldn't supporters behave (and be treated) like paying customers?
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Do you think a supermarket or a bank could use that argument?
If clubs are run as businesses then shouldn't supporters behave (and be treated) like paying customers?'"
Don't think it works like that.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Don't think it works like that.'"
Quite - if FC aren't playing well I don't just pop along and support Rovers.
If Asda mess up I go to Tesco.
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| I think selling Lineham is a big mistake. Club saying he wanted to leave but in that video interview not so long back he said he wanted to stay as long as possible. Top quality wingers are game changers and we cant just keep disgarding them because we think we might have the next big thing. Naughtons using us a stepping stone back to the NRL (ala Rankin) so theres no longevity in that and Lancaster still has a lot to prove And what is £125k - not a bloody lot really for a 22 year old at the top of the scoring charts and ex dream team player
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"I think selling Lineham is a big mistake. Club saying he wanted to leave but in that video interview not so long back he said he wanted to stay as long as possible. Top quality wingers are game changers and we cant just keep disgarding them because we think we might have the next big thing. Naughtons using us a stepping stone back to the NRL (ala Rankin) so theres no longevity in that and Lancaster still has a lot to prove And what is £125k - not a bloody lot really for a 22 year old at the top of the scoring charts and ex dream team player'"
It was 140K
I'd douby Naughton will go back to the NRL (You do realise he is from Bradford don't you?)
Lineham IMO is not a gamebreaker.
People can lie in video interviews.
I would rather he stayed, but if he wants to go, better to get this kind of money and have time to replace him, unlike the Briscoe situation.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Quite - if FC aren't playing well I don't just pop along and support Rovers.
If Asda mess up I go to Tesco.'"
Actually, I see Diogenes' point, and my comment was equally aimed at the mentality that fans 'shouldn't' stay away. Fans should be free to do whatever they like, and the club should be held at least equally accountable for fans choosing to do so instead of blaming fans. Equally though, this kind of outcome has to be accepted as a possible consequence.
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| Exactly, people stop coming and the club have to either sell or make cuts to cover the shortfall.
I imagne most of those saying selling Lineham is a mistake (Seb a couple of comments up, for instance & Ian P elsewhere) are the same ones who've publically turned there back on the club. A little ironic really.
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| Quote ="ccs"Anyone who believes that contracted players won't leave the club under any circumstances is kidding themselves.'"
Yet there are posters on here who stated transfer fees are dead, and if it was suggested to them about a player under contract at another club coming here they would throw a fit saying they will never leave their contract.
And before someone asks, transfer fees dont count on cap......
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Exactly, people stop coming and the club have to either sell or make cuts to cover the shortfall.
I imagne most of those saying selling Lineham is a mistake (Seb a couple of comments up, for instance & Ian P elsewhere) are the same ones who've publically turned there back on the club. A little ironic really.'"
That doesn't make it the fault of those fans, though. Seems to be easier for some to have a pop at fans than question the club about falling gates, though.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Exactly, people stop coming and the club have to either sell or make cuts to cover the shortfall.
I imagne most of those saying selling Lineham is a mistake (Seb a couple of comments up, for instance & Ian P elsewhere) are the same ones who've publically turned there back on the club. A little ironic really.'"
Picking out 2 forum posters who do not go to games and also happen to think selling Lineham is a mistake as the yardstick is a bit far fetched.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Quite - if FC aren't playing well I don't just pop along and support Rovers.'"
No you don't go at all and you keep your money or spend it on something else.
I struggle with the idea that a rugby club can serve up tripe year after year and the supporters are just supposed to keep quiet and keep shelling out their hard earned dosh and that any financial problems experienced by a club are the supporters' fault for not backing them.
No other business would expect its customers to keep on buying an inferior product or service.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Picking out 2 forum posters who do not go to games and also happen to think selling Lineham is a mistake as the yardstick is a bit far fetched.'"
I didn't say that was the yardstick at all. I think the general yardstick would be "disappointed to see him go, but we've got a decent fee out of it".
I said it was ironic that those most vocal about him leaving and blaming the club are those fans who don't go anymore.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"No you don't go at all and you keep your money or spend it on something else.
I struggle with the idea that a rugby club can serve up tripe year after year and the supporters are just supposed to keep quiet and keep shelling out their hard earned dosh and that any financial problems experienced by a club are the supporters' fault for not backing them.
No other business would expect its customers to keep on buying an inferior product or service.'"
Hull FC are a sports club, not a typical business.
The club have supporters (you say that yourself, twice), not customers. There's a huge difference.
Nobody has ever said fans should "keep quiet". But turning your back on them and still expecting them to operate financially at the same level is ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"I didn't say that was the yardstick at all. I think the general yardstick would be "disappointed to see him go, but we've got a decent fee out of it".
I said it was ironic that those most vocal about him leaving and blaming the club are those fans who don't go anymore.'"
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Quote I imagne most of those saying selling Lineham is a mistake are the same ones who've publically turned there back on the club.'"
I think it is a good deal personally, however it stops being a good deal if we start shipping out more of our 'better' players.
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| Quote ="hullbg"You said
I think it is a good deal personally, however it stops being a good deal if we start shipping out more of our 'better' players.'"
Read what I said properly.
"most of those saying selling Lineham is a mistake"
Not, "most fans".
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Read what I said properly.
"most of those saying selling Lineham is a mistake"
Not, "most fans".'"
Sorry i had Ian etc down as fans. Do people stop being fans if they stop going to games?
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Exactly, people stop coming and the club have to either sell or make cuts to cover the shortfall.
I imagne most of those saying selling Lineham is a mistake (Seb a couple of comments up, for instance & Ian P elsewhere) are the same ones who've publically turned there back on the club. A little ironic really.'"
Where have I turned my back on the club ???
I have stated next season I will be going back to games I choose to go, when you remember the club left me not able to go in the switch to Fridays. I am simply returning and with different priorities developing within my family things have to change end off.
I have never stated selling Lineham is bad either, its good business when a club comes in and offers money ............
now get a life
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Hull FC are a sports club, not a typical business.
The club have supporters (you say that yourself, twice), not customers. There's a huge difference.
Nobody has ever said fans should "keep quiet". But turning your back on them and still expecting them to operate financially at the same level is ridiculous.'"
So supporters who buy passes, match tickets or merchandise from the club are not customers of a business? Seriously?
The club is having to cut costs because it is a business and there must be some correlation between income and expenditure.
If some supporters/customers are turning their back on the club/business its because they are unhappy with the standard of the product or service. The way to win them back is to improve that service, not just to appeal to their loyalty.
I'm not expecting the club to operate at the same financial level on reduced income, but I think its wrong to blame the supporters for the reduced income without looking at why some are staying away.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"
. The way to win them back is to improve that service, not just to appeal to their loyalty.'"
We have, that's why the most fervent whiners are taking a back seat of late.
Just wait until we lose the next 2 SL games and get knocked out of t'cup.
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