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| Quote ="looking in"Still thinking of not attending the Derby match Mrs. B.?'"
Is this on topic? You're like the red and white clown from Northampton talking bollox about cleaning windowsills But undecided. Paid for four tickets and not missed a game so far including pre season friendlies.
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| Quote ="hokeydokey"Was going to start with "i dont believe what i am reading" but unfortunately I am. How on earth you can criticise pearson is beyond me.If some billionaire come along with no connection or knowledge of the game along wanting to buy ,would we turn him away because he is not a "rugby man"? yes he has made mistakes through listening to advice from "Rugby men"In any sport you need luck and for Fc thats something we have not had I just hope that Pearson takes all this crap on the chin or it could spell the end because I cannot see anyone coming in knowing the abuse they are likely to get'"
Who did he listen to when deciding to sack Gentle well before he actually sacked him?
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| Quote ="Kosh"I wouldn't pay too much attention to Bumpy.
On your last point - do you seriously believe that anyone interested in buying the club would pay the tiniest bit of attention to the assorted ramblings posted on an internet message board? Or that Pearson even reads it?'"
If I was the owner or coach under fire at Hull Fc I would be looking at what supporters were saying.
Whether Pearson actually reads the messages himself I wouldn't know but you can bet someone at the club will be looking and passing the general comments on.
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| Careful what you wish for, you may just get it
I can think of one person who by buying FC for a knock down price could achieve almost over night what he desires.......
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| Here here can't believe all the crap about wanting Pearson out
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So to be clear, you're saying overall shirt sales are down this year? I've bought three over the last four seasons, but bought both this year, first time I've ever done that.'"
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| Any bad decisions Pearson makes (and yes there have been some) first and foremost hurt himself in a very real manner. So I very much doubt that he's going to deliberately go about losing chunks of his money if he can at all help it. There is no financial wizardry alone that can get him out of this mess, no assets to strip off like some spiv owners in other sports have so the only way he can get back the money is by improving the club and getting fans put their cash into it. That's good because if that isn't a big incentive to improve I don't know what is. Let's hope he is learning from his mistakes. Furthermore as the dobbin supporters always tell us he isn't a real supporter and only in for the cash - that is also good because the emotional part of the club should be with the fans and a cooler head is needed for the sometimes cruel but necessary decisions high level sport needs.
And to repeat to the moaners, who is a realistic alternative? Not that it would make much difference as they would be whinging about them in no time if it ever happened.
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"And to repeat to the moaners, who is a realistic alternative?'"
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"Any bad decisions Pearson makes (and yes there have been some) first and foremost hurt himself in a very real manner. So I very much doubt that he's going to deliberately go about losing chunks of his money if he can at all help it. There is no financial wizardry alone that can get him out of this mess, no assets to strip off like some spiv owners in other sports have so the only way he can get back the money is by improving the club and getting fans put their cash into it. That's good because if that isn't a big incentive to improve I don't know what is. Let's hope he is learning from his mistakes. Furthermore as the dobbin supporters always tell us he isn't a real supporter and only in for the cash - that is also good because the emotional part of the club should be with the fans and a cooler head is needed for the sometimes cruel but necessary decisions high level sport needs.
And to repeat to the moaners, who is a realistic alternative? Not that it would make much difference as they would be whinging about them in no time if it ever happened.'"
He seems to be taking a long time to learn,he had a bad experience with mcrae and co after taking their advice,but who advised him to sack gentle and hire radford,I cant imagine who it could be can you ?
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| Anybody ever thought that albeit he's wealthy and from a sporting background he knows feck all about league and how to recruit coaches and players?
Not a dig but genuine question.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Anybody ever thought that albeit he's wealthy and from a sporting background he knows feck all about league and how to recruit coaches and players?
Not a dig but genuine question.'"
Maybe. But Hudgell knows league, recruited Sandercock and has signed about 20 players who've left Rovers before their deal was up. I'm not saying Pearson's done well, but knowledge of the game doesn't guarantee good judgement.
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| This statement could become a rod for his own back:
Quote ="Adam Pearson less than 2 months ago""I'll tell everyone now, if they think there is going to be a change in the head coach of the club this year, they are sadly mistaken. My heels are as dug in as you will find them.
"If anyone wants to put up a banner saying 'Radford Out' then bring it on because it is not going to happen."'"
[urlhttp://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Adam-Pearson-chance-Lee-Radford-sacked-Hull-FC/story-25957523-detail/story.html[/url
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe. But Hudgell knows league, recruited Sandercock and has signed about 20 players who've left Rovers before their deal was up. I'm not saying Pearson's done well, but knowledge of the game doesn't guarantee good judgement.'"
Sandercock I'll give you but 20? Some went for good money don't forget.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Sandercock I'll give you but 20? Some went for good money don't forget.'"
Yes, 20. Philb did a list not so long ago. Edit, it's nearly 30, apologies:
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| Well it's a good job from next season it won't be hudgells job, some guy called Jamie something i hope he knows a thing or 2 about rugby league
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Anybody ever thought that albeit he's wealthy and from a sporting background he knows feck all about league and how to recruit coaches and players?
Not a dig but genuine question.'"
In Pearson's defence it's arguably the hardest time since SL started to sign quality players, due to the NRL salary cap and exchange rate changes the big name Aussies don't want to come anymore, and Union is also an option for players like Burgess and Eastmond. 5 or 10 years ago you'd have expected the ageing Aussie stars like Slater, Thurston and Smith to give SL a go for a couple of years, now they'll stay at home and see their career out.
You then get left with a smaller pool of British players, South sea Islanders and relatively unknown Aussies moving between the clubs. While clubs with well run youth systems like Leeds and Wigan keep their own home grown talent.
It doesn't excuse some of the frankly embarrassing transfer dealings of the last 3/4 years, but it's not as easy as the days when we added the likes of Jason Smith, Swain and Kearney to an already decent team and they added the cherry on to the top of the cake.
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| Quote ="UllFC"In Pearson's defence it's arguably the hardest time since SL started to sign quality players, due to the NRL salary cap and exchange rate changes the big name Aussies don't want to come anymore, and Union is also an option for players like Burgess and Eastmond. 5 or 10 years ago you'd have expected the ageing Aussie stars like Slater, Thurston and Smith to give SL a go for a couple of years, now they'll stay at home and see their career out.
You then get left with a smaller pool of British players, South sea Islanders and relatively unknown Aussies moving between the clubs. While clubs with well run youth systems like Leeds and Wigan keep their own home grown talent.
It doesn't excuse some of the frankly embarrassing transfer dealings of the last 3/4 years, but it's not as easy as the days when we added the likes of Jason Smith, Swain and Kearney to an already decent team and they added the cherry on to the top of the cake.'"
Yes because we are the only ones that this applies too.
Its not about the quality of player that we can now sign we are in the same boat as everyone in terms of who we recruit and the salary cap we spend.
Rovers found Kelly.
Saints have rejuvenated altea vea and so the story continues.
The cap and player pool levels the playing field and so the quality of coaching becomes paramount and that is where Pearson is failing by still employing our coach.
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| Quote ="hokeydokey"Was going to start with "i dont believe what i am reading" but unfortunately I am. How on earth you can criticise pearson is beyond me.If some billionaire come along with no connection or knowledge of the game along wanting to buy ,would we turn him away because he is not a "rugby man"? yes he has made mistakes through listening to advice from "Rugby men"In any sport you need luck and for Fc thats something we have not had I just hope that Pearson takes all this crap on the chin or it could spell the end because I cannot see anyone coming in knowing the abuse they are likely to get'"
Please point out exactly what I have stated is untrue/false/inaccurate?
Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Hey if bumpy says it, it's true.
He's the foremost authority on all aspects of running a business, man-management, structuring a training plan, coaching, conditioning, you name it he's the man.'"
Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate my skillset, now instead of being a facetious know-nowt why not rebuff what I've said with a cogent arguement.
Nothing I have said is untrue/inaccurate, but if you'd like to point out exactly what I've said isn't then go ahead instead of being so lame.
PS, I don't know much about conditioning, I've never hinted I do, nor indeed training with regard to rugby which I've stated exactly as much previously, I was more happy to be instructed and be a workhorse on the field. What I do know is understanding people, understanding psychology in the work place, man management and running a successful business. clearly you can't accept that a person is capable of such, how pitiful that your world is so closed.
Quote ="Hessle Roader"You also forgot he's the man who found a cure for the common cold.'"
Ah, another bandwagon banjo boy without the capability to offer any open minded opinion or thought..have you ever thought about just copying and pasting some of the others posts slagging me off, save you the time getting a dictionary out for those big words ..just a thought tiger.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Please point out exactly what I have stated is untrue/false/inaccurate?
Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate my skillset, now instead of being a facetious know-nowt why not rebuff what I've said with a cogent arguement.
Nothing I have said is untrue/inaccurate, but if you'd like to point out exactly what I've said isn't then go ahead instead of being so lame.
PS, I don't know much about conditioning, I've never hinted I do, nor indeed training with regard to rugby which I've stated exactly as much previously, I was more happy to be instructed and be a workhorse on the field. What I do know is understanding people, understanding psychology in the work place, man management and running a successful business. clearly you can't accept that a person is capable of such, how pitiful that your world is so closed.
Ah, another bandwagon banjo boy without the capability to offer any open minded opinion or thought..have you ever thought about just copying and pasting some of the others posts slagging me off, save you the time getting a dictionary out for those big words ..just a thought tiger.
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Ah bless. Perhaps when you come down off your pedestal you'll see a little bit of banter when its put to you. And for your information I'm not a banjo boy and resent the remark. Perhaps when you've been following the club for over 50 years you may learn a little respect for those who have.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Please point out exactly what I have stated is untrue/false/inaccurate?
Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate my skillset, now instead of being a facetious know-nowt why not rebuff what I've said with a cogent arguement.
Nothing I have said is untrue/inaccurate, but if you'd like to point out exactly what I've said isn't then go ahead instead of being so lame.
PS, I don't know much about conditioning, I've never hinted I do, nor indeed training with regard to rugby which I've stated exactly as much previously, I was more happy to be instructed and be a workhorse on the field. What I do know is understanding people, understanding psychology in the work place, man management and running a successful business. clearly you can't accept that a person is capable of such, how pitiful that your world is so closed.
Ah, another bandwagon banjo boy without the capability to offer any open minded opinion or thought..have you
ever thought about just copying and pasting some of the others posts slagging me off, save you the time getting a dictionary out for those big words ..just a thought tiger.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Ah bless. Perhaps when you come down off your pedestal you'll see a little bit of banter when its put to you. And for your information I'm not a banjo boy and resent the remark. Perhaps when you've been following the club for over 50 years you may learn a little respect for those who have.'"
And when you show some respect instead of trying to belittle me you just might. You couldn't wait to jump on-board with your low brow dig could you and you got exactly the same in return.
I don't go out of my way to play childish insult tactics because someone has an opinion, YOU however did, following on what others had said so what were you expecting?
IF you had an opinion and wanted to say, no sorry you're wrong and this is why then that's fine, it's an opinion, I respect it even if I might argue that you're wrong, that's what forums are about.
What forums shouldn't be about is denigrating posters for having an opinion (as you and others have done) , that's not banter BTW and even if you accept it was somehow my response isn't banter?? You can't have it both ways, if you can't take it, don't dish it out.
So, what is your opinion on Pearson and if you think my post is inaccurate/false please say why, there are no need for insults/snidy digs because of differing opinions, as someone of a certain age as you've indicated you should know better.
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| Quote ="ccs"Am I the only one who cringes with embarrassment at the thought that someone like this says that they also support Hull FC. I guess I must be.'"
Yes, just you, do you have an opinion on Pearson or are you just another who wants to have a pop at me, just asking as it's derailing the thread and against the AUP.
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| Quote ="ccs"Am I the only one who cringes with embarrassment at the thought that someone like this says that they also support Hull FC. I guess I must be.'"
No. He'll be telling us about ski-ing holidays next.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"No. He'll be telling us about ski-ing holidays next.'"
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