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| Quote ="Chris28"Gentle was the Aussie national assistant as well as Wests assistant. System of failure? OK
Where do you suggest we get this champion coach from? Who wants to come here? And when he leaves after the obvious unprecedented success, where do we get his successor? Or should no assistant ever progress to be head coach?
Brian McLennan - assistant coach with NZ. Previous coaching at head coach level - Hibiscus Coast Raiders. First season at Leeds? World club challenge and Grand Final victories. with another GF victory the next year.
Brian McDermott - assistant at Hudds and Leeds before going to Quins and seeing them slide down the table each year. Rejoins Leeds as assistant and takes over shortly after. Wins 2 grand finals in his first two years.
James Webster - assistant coach at Hull, assistant coach at Wakey. Takes over from Agar, 7 points from 8 so far. Unbeaten, although unproven.
I'm sure I could go on.
I'm not saying that Radders is the right man, nor am I saying that Gentle was, but we have to stop this kneejerkery every time we lose a game or play badly.'"
We'll said Chris.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"We'll said Chris.'"
indeed, we should do it after playing 19 games, losing 7, drawing 1 and being 4 points off 8th.
Would that be a good time?
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| Quote ="davey37"Good to hear from you again Mr Gentle
How's life back down under?'"
Nice to hear from you too Lee
Life's good - back's healed nicely
Good to see you fulfilling your potential
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| Quote ="Standee"indeed, we should do it after playing 19 games, losing 7, drawing 1 and being 4 points off 8th.
Would that be a good time?'"
Yeah & how many have you attended super fan?
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Yeah & how many have you attended super fan?'"
I seriously doubt even you could point to the team's performances being dependent on Standee's attendance
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| Quote ="cod'ead"I seriously doubt even you could point to the team's performances being dependent on Standee's attendance'"
Not saying our performances are standees fault..but its like me moaning about train delays when i travel to work in car!
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Not saying our performances are standees fault..but its like me moaning about train delays when i travel to work in car!'"
what a rubbish analogy
train delays would have no impact on your ability to get to work, I support Hull FC and they are not performing, as a supporter it is my right to make observations and have an opinion. The fact that you don't like it only makes it more valid!
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| Quote ="westdock boy in oz"Nice to hear from you too Lee
Life's good - back's healed nicely
Good to see you fulfilling your potential'"
It's tough Pete as you well know.
How the hell do you motivate this bunch?
Still a long way to go to reach my potential but things moving in the right direction.
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| Quote ="Standee"what a rubbish analogy
train delays would have no impact on your ability to get to work, I support Hull FC and they are not performing, as a supporter it is my right to make observations and have an opinion. The fact that you don't like it only makes it more valid!'"
no they dont & your not a supporter of my club
a supporter supports his team by going to watch them no matter how far away they live..you just are negative on anything to do qith FC.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"no they dont & your not a supporter of my club
a supporter supports his team by going to watch them no matter how far away they live..you just are negative on anything to do qith FC.'"
not your club mate, belongs to all of us that support the team, was here before you, will be long after.
In fact, by not constantly blowing warm air up the club and saying what I see, some would argue I am MORE of a supporter, but I don't see a hierarchy of supporter, my Aunt has been dead over 15 years, she is still an FC supporter in the eyes of many.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"no they dont & your not a supporter of my club
a supporter supports his team by going to watch them no matter how far away they live..you just are negative on anything to do qith FC.'"
For me to go to a home game it's a 12 hour round trip and costs £100 in fuel alone. For this reason I don't go very often these days either. In fact I've only been to 3 games this season. Am I not a supporter either?
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| Quote ="Standee"not your club mate, belongs to all of us that support the team, was here before you, will be long after.
In fact, by not constantly blowing warm air up the club and saying what I see, some would argue I am MORE of a supporter, but I don't see a hierarchy of supporter, my Aunt has been dead over 15 years, she is still an FC supporter in the eyes of many.'"
your a fan not a supporter..loook it up..mate.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"For me to go to a home game it's a 12 hour round trip and costs £100 in fuel alone. For this reason I don't go very often these days either. In fact I've only been to 3 games this season. Am I not a supporter either?'"
You go to a few games so you are a supporter.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"You go to a few games so you are a supporter.'"
My point was you don't have to go every week to be a supporter. I don't agree with a lot of the things Standee says but he obviously cares about the club. If he lived locally I'm sure he would go more often, but as with myself and countless other people who have moved away from Hull for whatever reason, even if it is possible to go to games it's often hard to justify the time, effort and money to go. That doesn't mean we don't care. It's easy for someone like you who lives in Hull to criticise someone for not going, but would you still go regularly if every home game took longer to get to than any away game (Catalans aside)?
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"My point was you don't have to go every week to be a supporter. I don't agree with a lot of the things Standee says but he obviously cares about the club. If he lived locally I'm sure he would go more often, but as with myself and countless other people who have moved away from Hull for whatever reason, even if it is possible to go to games it's often hard to justify the time, effort and money to go. That doesn't mean we don't care. It's easy for someone like you who lives in Hull to criticise someone for not going, but would you still go regularly if every home game took longer to get to than any away game (Catalans aside)?'"
I have not criticised anyone, I just don't like the way standee pulls apart the whole setup off the club, he can't possibly see the whole goings on by listening to gwillym on a Friday evening.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I have not criticised anyone, I just don't like the way standee pulls apart the whole setup off the club, he can't possibly see the whole goings on by listening to gwillym on a Friday evening.'"
He is just putting his opinion across and you don't have to agree with it. People could argue they don't like the way you think everything Radford does is perfect.
As for the Fan/Supporter thing, I believe Standee has been to at least one game this year so that would make him a supporter in your eyes. Personally I think anybody who cheers the team on from the ground, the radio or the internet is just as much a supporter as anyone else.
The sad thing in all this is that we have scores of fans drifting away from the club and the game itself as the become wholly disinterested. And we have plenty of those who still go and follow the team arguing among themselves as they filter into pro/anti Radford groups.
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| Quote ="hullbg"He is just putting his opinion across and you don't have to agree with it. People could argue they don't like the way you think everything Radford does is perfect.
As for the Fan/Supporter thing, I believe Standee has been to at least one game this year so that would make him a supporter in your eyes. Personally I think anybody who cheers the team on from the ground, the radio or the internet is just as much a supporter as anyone else.
The sad thing in all this is that we have scores of fans drifting away from the club and the game itself as the become wholly disinterested. And we have plenty of those who still go and follow the team arguing among themselves as they filter into pro/anti Radford groups.'"
I don't see good in everything Radders does, I've just posted I don't want another coach sacked so early, as in have said before I didn't want Gentle sacked, & standee is a bloke to want it to go wrong for Radders to gloat & say told you so, & this would be wrong in my eyes, I have always said Miller isn't good enough for hull but I would have loved it & have posted in the past for him to prove me wrong as this would have been good for our club, but I've never come on this forum & said told you his rubbish to gloat because I am a fan & a supporter, & only want good for FC not players & staff to fail.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I don't see good in everything Radders does, I've just posted I don't want another coach sacked so early, as in have said before I didn't want Gentle sacked, & standee is a bloke to want it to go wrong for Radders to gloat & say told you so, & this would be wrong in my eyes, I have always said Miller isn't good enough for hull but I would have loved it & have posted in the past for him to prove me wrong as this would have been good for our club, but I've never come on this forum & said told you his rubbish to gloat because I am a fan & a supporter, & only want good for FC not players & staff to fail.'"
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"no they dont & your not a supporter of my club
a supporter supports his team by going to watch them no matter how far away they live..you just are negative on anything to do qith FC.'"
Statistically possible I suppose............Financially impossible
Just have to come to terms that I'm not a proper supporter
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"You go to a few games so you are a supporter.'"
So its up to you to define who is a supporter/fan/whatever now?
If I describe my situation can you let me know too? Much obliged
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I have not criticised anyone, =#0000FFI just don't like the way standee pulls apart the whole setup off the club, he can't possibly see the whole goings on by listening to gwillym on a Friday evening.'"
I (and plenty of others, I think) don't like the way people like you seek to open genital-measuring contests about who's the bestest fan, either. Standee might be a world-class anus a lot of the time, but this 'I'm a better fan than you' is every bit as irritating and condescending as his posts ever are. My Grandad stopped going this year but still watches and listens to every game, is he less of a fan now?
Also, differentiating between fan and supporter for a sporting club is both pointless and meaningless.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I (and plenty of others, I think) don't like the way people like you seek to open genital-measuring contests about who's the bestest fan, either. Standee might be a world-class anus a lot of the time, but this 'I'm a better fan than you' is every bit as irritating and condescending as his posts ever are. [uMy Grandad stopped going this year but still watches and listens to every game, is he less of a fan now[/u?
Also, differentiating between fan and supporter for a sporting club is both pointless and meaningless.'"
No, but he no longer qualifies for "supporter" status.
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| Quote ="Chris28"No, but he no longer qualifies for "supporter" status.'"
Ah, but he still bought his season ticket, so is he financially supporting?
As I said, it's meaningless. An absolute nonsense.
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| Quote ="Chris28"So its up to you to define who is a supporter/fan/whatever now?
If I describe my situation can you let me know too? Much obliged'"
No not at all zucchini head asked me if they was a supporter, i was just replying, a supporter supports (financially) a fan is a fanatic.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"No not at all zucchini head asked me if they was a supporter, i was just replying, a supporter supports (financially) a fan is a fanatic.'"
And if he buys a shirt?
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