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| Whilst Tom looks certain to leave, if he did say stay our backline would be sorted minus a halfback for years to come.
McDonnell, Briscoe, Crooks, Arundel, Yeaman, Lineham, Crookes, Holdsworth.
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| Well not to fussed about Briscoe leaving in all honesty. Yes he is a great player and will miss him but i feel Lineham will be alot better then Briscoe overall soon.
I Hope it goes well for him over in the NRL and hopefully one day come back to us.
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| Hall is very good but how could he not shine in a champion team. Great finisher, and excellent under a high ball.
Can he make a break out of nothing like Briscoe? No, does he possess great footwork no. Also for all his size Tom over recent yrs on the stats has beaten him on tackle busts metres n offloads.
Tom is better in pretty much every single dept over Charnley!
As said if either of those 2had played in the same hull teams as Tom I doubt either would have made half the impression Tom has.
Made a break against cas the other day from absolutely nothing, combination of footwork strength pace n power. I thought at the time how many in S L could of made that break in that circumstance. Not many at all.
Grateful we've Tom lineham coming through but he'll be very different to Briscoe, lineham 'could' turn out to be very effective even prolific n as a winger more useful to us but doubt he'll provide that true x factor Briscoe does.
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| Quote ="heard1989"Well not to fussed about Briscoe leaving in all honesty. Yes he is a great player and will miss him but i feel Lineham will be alot better then Briscoe overall soon.
I Hope it goes well for him over in the NRL and hopefully one day come back to us.'"
You'd "not be fussed" if our international winger left?
He'd be a huge loss, regardless of the emergence of Tom Lineham.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Hall is strong, fast, great in the in the air and an unbelieveable finisher but still couldn't do things that Briscoe can ie break through a three man tackle and then a four man tackle straight after. Just like he did last season against Leeds. '"
Briscoe's good, certainly, and played great against us last season. He may well be able to do some stuff that Hall can't. I'd say Hall was better though, largely because you hardly ever have to go back more than a game or two to find an example of a try of his that required exceptional play to score it. Briscoe seems less consistent in that respect although obviously I see less of his general play than you lot.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"You'd "not be fussed" if our international winger left?
He'd be a huge loss, regardless of the emergence of Tom Lineham.'"
Tbh no. I no it would be a huge loss but we can't make him stay.
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| Anyone who would want Lineham and Crookes on the wing over Lineham and Briscoe want their heads looking at.
He is a fantastic winger, he has the X Factor and you need to pay for that. We have the money to sign a scrum half, we just didnt find the right one. Keeping Briscoe would not detract from that
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Whilst Tom looks certain to leave, if he did say stay our backline would be sorted minus a halfback for years to come.
McDonnell, Briscoe, Crooks, Arundel, Yeaman, Lineham, Crookes, Holdsworth.'"
And sadly thats the problem for me. Until we get a decent halfback we will never imo get the best out of this backline. I personally feel its that lack of quality at 6 & 7 which has led to Tom stagnating a little over the past 18 months. I am sure that will be a consideration once he actually makes his mind up.
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| I have a feeling Tom may follow his brother, I've not heard anything but the more this drags on the more it concerns me
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| Quote ="biffa.fc"I have a feeling Tom may follow his brother, I've not heard anything but the more this drags on the more it concerns me'"
Me too.
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| Ryan Hall is a great finisher but Tom Briscoe can (and regularly does) make something out of nothing.
If he had a centre partner that could (would) put him away the same as Ryan Hall does then he'd look like an outstanding player just because of the amount of tries he would be scoring.
Tom Lineham looks to have that same spark that we all saw in Tom Briscoe a few years ago - his return from in-goal against Castleford to then get 20m upfield was exactly the sort of thing that we'd have seen Mr Briscoe do a couple of years ago.
Huge loss for us
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| Is it certain that were losing tom?
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| Leeds have a strict wage structure and wouldn't be able to offer anywhere near what we have, so I wouldn't worry about that.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Anyone who would want Lineham and Crookes on the wing over Lineham and Briscoe want their heads looking at.
He is a fantastic winger, he has the X Factor and you need to pay for that. We have the money to sign a scrum half, we just didnt find the right one. Keeping Briscoe would not detract from that'"
The Seymour situation could change that.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Leeds have a strict wage structure and wouldn't be able to offer anywhere near what we have, so I wouldn't worry about that.'"
But does the chance to win trophies and have a better chance of being first choice for England outweigh the extra salary Hull are offering?
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| Quote ="UllFC"But does the chance to win trophies and have a better chance of being first choice for England outweigh the extra salary Hull are offering?'"
id say it does alot of rugby players dont care about the money to much no matter where they go they wont be on daft money like football so if they can get similar somewhere else where they have a better chance to win silverware and play international level im sure they would sign for that club
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"id say it does alot of rugby players dont care about the money to much no matter where they go they wont be on daft money like football so if they can get similar somewhere else where they have a better chance to win silverware and play international level im sure they would sign for that club'"
Ha. I'm sure if someone offered you more money you would take that. Especially in a team that has the aspirations hull does.
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| Quote ="FaithfulCott"Ha. I'm sure if someone offered you more money you would take that. Especially in a team that has the aspirations hull does.'"
well it depends doesn't it they wont be winning nothing this year and who knows how long its going to take to get hull in to grand finals??? there's at least 5 better teams then us so if you want silverware in the short career rugby league is then you want to play for the best teams and usually at the best teams you get great money so it would be a win win for a player that moves to Leeds or wigan or warrington
aspiration does not mean anything will happen in the next 5 to 10 years who knows?
if u ask how many finals Leeds will be in that time i am guessing a lot more then hull unfortunately!!
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| Quote ="biffa.fc"I have a feeling Tom may follow his brother, I've not heard anything but the more this drags on the more it concerns me'"
Dual reg with York ??
Just watching Charnley tonight , he's nowhere near Briscoes standard
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Dual reg with York ??
Just watching Charnley tonight , he's nowhere near Briscoes standard'"
Miles off Briscoe's standard, but McBanana will continue to make wrong decisions.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Miles off Briscoe's standard, but McBanana will continue to make wrong decisions.'"
None more wrong than picking Sinfield.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"None more wrong than picking Sinfield.'"
And leaving Brough out the squad.
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| Quote ="B0NES"And leaving Brough out the squad.'"
Danny Brough should be a shoe-in.
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| Briscoe off to Cronulla
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| I would suggest that you release him now and use the money to buy another player. I cannot believe that with someone of Briscoes calibre that you hardly seemed to get him into the game tonight.
I would be tempted to put him to full back so he can get his hands on the ball and maybe put McDonnnell in the halves.
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