Certainly agree about our halves taking on the line. They’ve got to want it and dominate proceedings, not stand 10/15 yards back waiting for the hooker to create them some space. The best halve around want the ball every tackle, ours seem to be happy to go thru the motions imo.

2nd receiver, short dart, drop off ball inside...that what you mean?

Not bothered that we lost or surprised. No big issues with the way we played
i think we found the best partnership in the halves with Seymour and holdsworth
and tried some different plays. i would like to see them have a 1st team out against York though for the full 80 and get used to each other because they cant train in this weather and it will get them jelling more for Leeds. people posting with their negativity please take it elsewhere it was a friendly against kr who treat it like there cup final that's why they have injuries and we don't. we should learn by now that the season doesn't revolve round the derby its about hull fc and what we do in the league and cup not what they do.

Just the overall lack of enthusiasm for the task in hand tbh. Watch Dobson (I know some won’t like this) he wants possession every time, he’s nonstop always buzzing always probing the line looking for a weakness. He isn’t a world beater by any means but he’s a good scrum half who cause’s problems for teams because he takes them on. I'm not writing our's off but if we want to challlenge we need to be more dynamic in the halves, just standing back passing and kicking will not trouble the better teams.

I agree , He was the best player on the field yesterday.

to many on here quick to write hull off before the season starts,i still think we can finnish in top5, i see what your saying smiggs but the bottom line is it was a friendly, i will reserve judgement till after we have played 6 or 7 games think then we will have a better idea

Yep, by some distance, I thought Dobson looked far better than Chase did the week before.

are you actually reading the thread?

nobody has written Hull off, people are just asking questions and discussing the overall performance as far as I can see.....?

I think dryer better conditions would suit any halfback in SL.

We haven't got 4 combinations, but we do have 4 options. Heremaia is a hooker who is seen as an option to play 7 if needs be.

It could be that they were told not to take the line on.
It can lead to unnecessary injuries, for a friendly in bad conditions, and when we are still in the experimenting stage.

I think Gentle said that he was a bit reluctant to play his first team against York, as it would only leave a short turn around before that Leads game

Not seen either game. Just wondered if Seymour and Holdsworth have actually played together at all as everyone seems to be picking them to start at Leeds?

And just because their coach has a name that sounds a bit rude doesn't make him bad.

The York game I think Gentle will play the youngsters

I'd play Heremaia and Holdsworth and ask them to fight for their places in the halves because they have been ordinary so far in the warm-ups. We need more from them. Or, better still, put Heremaia on the bench to support Cunningham and play Nicklas with Seymour.

If Gentle changes his plan for the York game on the back of yesterday then I'd be surprised.
If it does happen to be Holdsworth & Seymour in the halves then I'd expect them both to do well, they'll be expected to carry out the same drills and set moves, they should both know what they have to do.

We were missing Watts, Tickle & Whiting from our pack yesterday, big losses.

Yep, played in a dinner suit. Took the game by these scruff of the neck and asked questions of our defence constantly. Him and Burns will be better than any of our possible combinations IMO.

For me yesterday was just another inept performance to go with all the others weve served up over the last five years or so but for me i find it even more annoying than previous ones because of the so called new dawn were supposedly about to experience.

Weve had Pearson saying he wont accept mediocre anymore, Gentle saying were fitter, bigger, stronger than ever and look how far weve come and the club massively hyping up signings like Ellis, Holdsworth and Galea then we go serve up a performance that to all intensive purposes could of been right out of Agars coaching handbook. This at a time when many a floating fan will be looking in and wanting to support the club but having reservations on whether to spend their hard earned with the fear that theyre gonna go watch more of the last few years rubbish which many simply wont stomach.

Yesterday was the last chance for the club to show it means business on the field before the opener against Leeds and it failed to impress in a big way imo and now only a big result against Leeds away is gonna get the armchair supporters out of their comfy seats and the chance of that is slim going on yesterday and previous visits to Headingly.

I Fucking love you Seb.

Crookes and Arundel have got points to prove, I would say, but their defence isn't that bad - at least looking at tackle figures which I accept do not show the full story

Crookes made 40 tackles in 2012 and missed 9, Arundel made 67 and missed 5. Compare that to Caro who made 44 tackles and missed 15, and Welham who made 275 and missed 45.

seb you are one true loving arris

Aint that the truth!!

[iNobody[/i hyped up the signing of Galea. Not even a little bit. And Holdsworth was hardly trumpeted from the rooftops.

You seem to live in a kind of alternate reality half the time.

I said this to someone at the game yesterday. Although you tire more, you don't get injured as much when defending.