So, going off confirmed signings and rumoured departures, we're looking at...

1. New fullback
2. New winger
3. Joe Arundel
4. Kirk Yeaman
5. Tom Briscoe
6. Brett Seymour
7. New half back
8. New prop
9. Danny Houghton
10. Andy Lynch
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Joe Westerman
13. Richard Whiting

14. Adam Heremaia
15. Liam Watts
16. Jay Pitts
17. Richard Horne

Depending on the signings, there's definitely the nucleus of a good team there. If Tickle does go, I hope they give Whiting a shot at loose finally. He deserves it after all these years.

Paul Johnson is a good second rower who has been very unfortunate under Agar. He won a few awards last year with us, and was without doubt our most consistent player. He isn't a prop, he does make yards but he gets banged about far too often due to his size. According to Agar, he is in contract talks with us, but I wouldn't be suprised to see him move. I would be very disappointed though!

It's the getting rid the day before the game which I found strange, especially since he's popular with other players.

Has to be a reason for the speed of it

The 25 player first team squad rule ?

Yep, I don't think his performances have been bad at all, and definitely not bad enough for us to just bin him off when we only have two other proper props anyway, as well as him having a meeting with Bomber later in the week to sort it out.

Anybody know any news on where tickle will actually be next year?

Don't think anyone on here will know where he's going to end up? Rumours are Widnes, Hudds swap for Brough and also Saints been mentioned aswell.

With Widnes, they have offered him silly money.

widnes, with us getting a shed load of cash

Anyone know how to upload pics on here I have a screen shot of Mrs O'Meley ranting all the reasons and calling your club a shower on FB a mate of mine has just posted it on his wall, any info on how to upload and I will put it up.

Not a clue mate, but i doubt it will be here for long.

I know he hasn't played really but do we think a name change will improve his chances of getting a game?

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I still don't understand this interest for players in joining Widnes, sure you may get 2 years of good pay. But after that there is a strong possibility that their licence won't be renewed and your contract therefore expires. Also for a player like Tickle it would be hard to retain your England spot while playing for a team lower down the league. Its a bit short-sighted in my eyes.

If they double your pay and you live where you want to why would you care about 4 or 5 internationals a year?

Is there?

It's about time RL had its premier side in Black and White back! Surely in adding 'players like Tickle' that will help boost Widnes (and the likes) Leagur position?

I am sure most have seen it on f/book tbf, though I am not sure it should be on here privacy and all that

Highlights the shocking state the club under Rule, Hetherington and Agar. Agree with a previous post that O'Carroll was poor signing for a injury prone player.

Also you could argue that if he is not good enough for Wigan, or Wigan didn't put up a fight to keep him, then that in itself must raise a few questions.

It was reported that Wigan offered him a deal.

Agree. International rugby in this country there is is little or no recognition outside the RL community. You play France mid season or a meaningless game and when you get a chance to play Aus or NZ it's the same players picked regardless of form or position i.e. Sinfield, Chase and Peacock. Shocking.

Seems little resistance to keep him though.

They probably offered him a deal that a injury prone average sl deserved, we had to offer him a bit more to out bid them (and other clubs) and make him and his family move over here.

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Club assuring me O'Carroll has not been sacked, but is leaving for pastures new at some point. Not expecting Gentle to talk about it today

Got to say was very underwhelmed with this signing at first.. Still am, Kind of glad he is gone, Good luck at Widnes.