I've posted this previously but it is a very important point which is now also backed up by the Stobart sponsorship decision. At one of our fans forums at Hull Truck, Stuart Cummings was invited and fair-play to him, he came and answered questions. One thing he said was that he didn't have enough quality referees to be able to drop ones who have a bad game. He asked for more money to be allocated to them by the Chairs of the superleague clubs when the money is divied up and guess what the answer was? They voted against it! Now the same Chair's turn down proper cash sponsorship and take the advertising deal with Stobart and we are still moaning about poor refereeing performances. Some of the clubs who voted against this are in no position to complain and I would love to know who voted what.

My second point is my own opinion that two part-time refs following the Aussie model would be better than one full-time ref policing the whole game. We seem to blindly adopt the same rule changes/tweaks that the aussies do which contribute to a faster game but don't have this luxury. The RFL send out directives that refs will be policing a particular infringement e.g. play the ball (which is fine by me) but it lasts 2-3 weeks then it's back to business as usual.

This is a massive issue for the game but when our team is winning we don't give a toss and it's about time that changed.

Why should the officials get more money, do you think they have improved since they become full time? I don't, standard has probably got worse.

I don't. Think you have misunderstood slightly. I fully agree with you and think they should be part-time again. When i say give them more money, I don't mean individually. I mean so there is more of them.

shoot them all and start from scratch

Gansons positioning was poor he stood head on with the play so spotting a forward pass would have been difficult. The fact that there as supposed to be goal line ref says to me he should have been concentrating on his job and not been trying to do the in goal judges job as well. It seems that too many refs egos are too big to officiate the games they should work as a team and share out the responsibility.

it's always been the same mate - the general standard is as it was ten,twenty,thirty etc years ago - refs seems to be fitter today though which makes it even more amazing that so many forward passes are not spotted with the refs being up with the play more than before

I thought Mr Hicks had a good game for the Cas v Wakey contest and Mr Stokes did well in his first SL game - difficult to find fault with either IMO

There was nothing wrong with Ganson's positioning.
He possibly should have seen it anyway but that doesn't exclude the lino who has no excuse for missing it.
My only logical reason that the lino didn't give it was if he thought in that instant that there was an FC hand involved (Although that too would be wrong).

Ganson should have seen it from where he was but didn't, so then looked at his touch judge who also like a normal touch judge, does bugger all! Ganson should have also seen the push on McDonnell from Briscoe that helped you lot! Get over it you lost! Ganson had nothing to do with Seymour missed tackle or will sharp speed when hodgeson(30 odd yrs old) skinned em hahaha

Strange comment seen as your coach said this


Quote from Peter Gentle on the BBC website "I would expect an apology from Steve Ganson (for the Dobson try) I don't know whether they do that over here, but I expect him to call me up and say 'I got that one wrong'."

Disagree on this you don't stand head on in the in goal area it would have been better to be side on with the play. I am to defending him as its probably worst decision this season so far and will take some beating.

What you need is a bang average Aussie fullback like ours. All refs are now scared of Shannon thus meaning we get the rub of the green. It's a fact, take one ref out and the rest live in fear! What forward pass?

it was such a bad decision, I mean so bad as to make me wonder if Ganson thought a Hull hand made contact with the ball on it's way through to Dobson ?

I'm sure there will be equally contentious decisions this season - officials are human ,allegedly so it's just a matter of time until the next howler...

Oh dear

What sickens me is the fact that no one will reprimand or question this guys awful decisions. Referees just carry on regardless and until they appear to be all singing from the same hymn sheet the game will remain to be ruined by that dreaded word interpretation!!!

If he thought a hull player touched it he would of motioned another 6 tackles which he didnt. The distance the ball travelled he should of seen it as a forward pass.

ganson's just been on SKY admitting he was wrong and apologising to Hull

If you call that whingeing, then Sandercock must be a ranting idiot compared to Gentle

Stop taking the p1ss.

As incredibly laughable and incompetent the comedy officials were to allow the Dobson try it was the 6-0 penalty count against in the second half which cost us the match - 12 sets in a half isn't enough to win a game and it wasn't down to poor completion. It is actually testament to us in a way that we only lost in the last play of the game despite the forward pass debacle. Maybe PG can use Hull KR's perfect discipline performance in which they didn't transgress the laws on a single occasion as a benchmark for discipline going forward.

Sorry, thought it was april 1st again

Happens all the time though. refs get a bee in their bonnet about something and suddenly the whole balance of a game swings in favour of one team on the back of 2 or 3 soft penaties. Wonder if seymour's "histrionics" (Think that was the word ganson used) when dobson smacked him in the mouth piissed ganson off.

refs don't need to make incorrect decisions to influence games unfairly. Most of the time it's unequal appliance of the rules which make the difference. I remember numerous occassions yesterday where rovers markers weren't square but they weren't pinged

That's exactly right. Ganson is the Daddy of all of them when it comes to bees in bonnets and swinging games away from teams. I've said a million times on here it's not the decisions that are given that change games but the ones that are not. The second half yesterday was a prime example thereof.

Exactly right, as was your inference about Rovers' 2nd half discipline. I'm a firm believer that a nil penalty count is suspicious, no matter how good and well-disciplined the team in question is. The very nature of RL as a physically aggressive, fast and exhausting sport means that penalties offences will occur reasonably regularly. Particularly as the game goes on, so the fact that it was the second half makes it all the more questionable. We are expected to believe that as fatigue started to kick in, contrary to typical RL fare, Rovers' discipline improved. Generally, this simply does not happen.

I'd be more concerned about the six penalties we did concede, rather than the zero we were awarded. It's not as if it's exactly uncharted territory for us, we have a fairly long history of dumb play at times.

Eddie's comments about Ganson was an absolute joke, about he loves him because he is controversial