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| Quote ="fun time frankie"paul woods was a hardman if the player was a little half back or a skinny winger good riddance'"
The first part of your post you are, of course, entitled to even though you are clearly incorrect but the "good riddance" bit, especially directed at someone who died of leukaemia at a relatively young age, is beyond belief.
My abiding memory of Woodsy was a game at Thrum Hall once. Halifax booted the ball downfield and Woods, as only he could do, returned it with considerable interest. He didn't look for a gap on the fringes or choose any of the backs to run at. Instead, he picked out their biggest prop and ran full pelt at him. The collision was astonishing, Woodsy slammed into the prop, knocking him back three or four yards but the impact took it's toll on him too. Both players needed attention over the next minute or so. He was certainly a player who had moments he would rightly be ashamed of but he had far more courage and heart than the vast majority of players I have ever seen.
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| Of the current squad I'd say that it's Radford, his reputation for being able to handle himself precedes him and you don't see too many people having a go.
Paul Woods is a bit before my time but this thread's making him sound like an absolute legend.
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Paul Woods is a bit before my time but this thread's making him sound like an absolute legend.'"
Dave Hadfield did a good obit on him in the Independant. If Jim Mills is saying you're hard then you don't doubt it!
www.independent.co.uk/news/obitu ... 65308.html
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Paul Woods is a bit before my time but this thread's making him sound like an absolute legend.'"
Dave Hadfield did a good obit on him in the Independant. If Jim Mills is saying you're hard then you don't doubt it!
www.independent.co.uk/news/obitu ... 65308.html
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It is, apart from getting this bit spectacularly wrong:
"he became the first man to concede a potential "seven-point try" in the showpiece. Woods kicked the Hull Kingston Rovers winger, Steve Hubbard, after he scored, giving him an extra shot at goal from directly in front of the posts."
It wasn't Woodsy who gave away the 7-pointer, it was winger Graham Bray
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It is, apart from getting this bit spectacularly wrong:
"he became the first man to concede a potential "seven-point try" in the showpiece. Woods kicked the Hull Kingston Rovers winger, Steve Hubbard, after he scored, giving him an extra shot at goal from directly in front of the posts."
It wasn't Woodsy who gave away the 7-pointer, it was winger Graham Bray
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| when i said good riddance about paul woods in an earlier post i wasnt refering to his early death as having cancer myself at 35 i wouldnt dream of saying anything like that i meant he was a thug not a hardman he was the king of the cheap shot
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It is, apart from getting this bit spectacularly wrong:
"he became the first man to concede a potential "seven-point try" in the showpiece. Woods kicked the Hull Kingston Rovers winger, Steve Hubbard, after he scored, giving him an extra shot at goal from directly in front of the posts."
It wasn't Woodsy who gave away the 7-pointer, it was winger Graham Bray'"
Correct and IIRC it Bray punched Hubbard around the chops as he dived in.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Correct and if IIRC it Bray punched Hubbard around the chops as he dived in.'"
Absolutement.
It should never have been a 7-pointer anyway because Bray lamped him after the try was scored and not while Hubbard was "in the act of scoring a try"
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It should never have been a 7-pointer anyway because Bray lamped him after the try was scored and not while Hubbard was "in the act of scoring a try"'"
Good old Fred
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| it doesnt matter really does it it means you would have lost 8-5 instead
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"when i said good riddance about paul woods in an earlier post i wasnt refering to his early death as having cancer myself at 35 i wouldnt dream of saying anything like that i meant he was a thug not a hardman he was the king of the cheap shot'"
At least he never went round lamping bus drivers or kicking drunks while they're on the floor.
Paul was an absolute competitor who hated to lose. I remember sitting in The Albion after Leigh had knocked us out of the Premiership and while all the rest of the players were getting tanked up, Woodsy was looking angry in the corner. I went over and asked him what was up, he just nodded at his teammates and said: "look at 'em, you'd think we'd bloody won the trophy. We fooking lost, that's why I'm in a bad mood"
FYI a "cheap shot merchant" doesn't stand and face his opponent (or in Woodsy's case, stand and face his opponent's chest), a "cheap shot merchant" hits from behind and then runs & hides. If you want to see a modern-day "cheap shot merchant", you could do worse than study Ryan Bailey
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| Woodsy NEVER did a cheap shot.
He would punch or stiff arm people yes, but he would then stand in front of them to see if they wanted to "take it further" !!
People like Bailey are just cowards and would pap themselves if Woodsy was still around.
I remember seeing his debut away at Blackpool in 1979 (around September). not that he did any dirty deeds that day but we had just never seen anyone in the shirt who looked so "up for it".
Don't get the message wrong - Woodsy had lots of games when he behaved himself - the cup semi v Widnes in 1980 being one of them - the played stand off that day because Newlove pulled out in the warmup and Woodsy played a cracker.
My abiding memory of is good side was in the floodlit final in 79 - from full back he ran on to a ball from the scrum and simply demolished Phil Hogan , before handing the ball to Graham Evans to score under the posts. They had to scrape Hogan off the pitch - remember he was a second row trying to stop a fullback !
I've got in on DVD and put it on youtube...
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDWcVzxW3d0[/url
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| do you lot just see paul woods through rose tinted glasses to say he never did a cheap shot on anyone is ridiculous
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"do you lot just see paul woods through rose tinted glasses to say he never did a cheap shot on anyone is ridiculous'"
Feel free to come up some examples of these cheap shots. If you can't, may I suggest you take your deliberate flaming elsewhere?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"We're discussing "hard" not "fat and mad".
Most metioned so far would consider it a poor job if they got sent off and the opposing player wasn't carried off'"
if you think hame is fat the only thing truly fat is your head mate, but each have their own opinions
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| Its obvious Cod Head dosnt know the rules. the penalty is awarded for any offence commited during or after the try being scored, that is why the penalty is taken after the attempted conversion.
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| Quote ="hodgson15"Its obvious Cod Head dosnt know the rules. the penalty is awarded for any offence commited during or after the try being scored, that is why the penalty is taken after the attempted conversion.'"
Of course I don't, I was only going by the International Laws of the game and the specific law that has been in force since before I was playing OR refereeing, namely:
Section 13, Law 9.) Offence against Try scorer:
If a player fouls an opponent who is touching down for a try, a penalty kick at goal shall be taken from in front of the goal posts after the attempt to convert the try. After his kick has been taken the ball shall be deemed dead and play shall be restarted from the halfway line.
[size=150This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period.[/size
Please feel free to toddle off somewhere else, C-Beebies should've started by now
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| Quote ="hodgson15"Its obvious Cod Head dosnt know the rules. the penalty is awarded for any offence commited during or after the try being scored, that is why the penalty is taken after the attempted conversion.'"
I'd stay clear of this forum for quite some time as Cod'ead has effectively pulled your virtual pants down and everyone is still laughing at the size
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| My first memory of hull hardmen was back in the day just before we re-emerged as a contender around '75, names like Alan Wardell, Tony Duke, Tony Banham, Len Casey ,our scrum half kenny Foulkes was a very tough little fella. Seems like there was an all-in fist fight every other game at the Boulevard in those days.
Most of the Paul Woods stories I would vouch for, but I do remember an incident one time at Widnes I think 80-81, involving a very young and at that time unkown Andy Gregory , might even have been making his home debut, Very early in the game he chipped over the Hull defence and as Woods collected the kick, Gregory came through full force and hit Woodsy very hard, then pushed him as he played the ball. I was rubbing my hands at the prospect of Woodsy chasing down Gregory for the rest of the match, but to my surprise he didn't. Woodsy might have been having an off day, but equally it might say a lot about Gregory too.
By my measure of 'hard' I would go with Charlie Stone, Trevor Skerrett, Paul Rose, Mick Harrison,Ronnie Wileman
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| Roy Holdstock stated in his testimonial booklet many years ago that when he made his "A" team debut, he noticed the oppositions full back was knocking on a bit and thought he would havea run at him, being full of youthful exhuberance. It turned out to the be hardest, bonecrunching tackle he ever recieved.
The full back concerned was a certain Arthur Keegan.
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| Quote ="boro_boy"My first memory of hull hardmen was back in the day just before we re-emerged as a contender around '75, names like Alan Wardell, Tony Duke, Tony Banham, Len Casey ,our scrum half kenny Foulkes was a very tough little fella. Seems like there was an all-in fist fight every other game at the Boulevard in those days.
Most of the Paul Woods stories I would vouch for, but I do remember an incident one time at Widnes I think 80-81, involving a very young and at that time unkown Andy Gregory , might even have been making his home debut, Very early in the game he chipped over the Hull defence and as Woods collected the kick, Gregory came through full force and hit Woodsy very hard, then pushed him as he played the ball. I was rubbing my hands at the prospect of Woodsy chasing down Gregory for the rest of the match, but to my surprise he didn't. Woodsy might have been having an off day, but equally it might say a lot about Gregory too.
By my measure of 'hard' I would go with Charlie Stone, Trevor Skerrett, Paul Rose, Mick Harrison,Ronnie Wileman'"
I'm surprised Banham never came up earlier in the thread.
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| Tony Banham was the landlord of my local pub in Leeds for a while, unsurprisingly there were very few trouble makers lasted long in the pub !
IIRC he was a cockney and died a good few year ago
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| If any younger fans want to see Tony Banham in action should watch 'Another Bloody Sunday'.
Have a look on youtube, its there in four parts.
Shows Rugby League at its best!
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| Quote ="marathonman"Tony Banham was the landlord of my local pub in Leeds for a while, unsurprisingly there were very few trouble makers lasted long in the pub !
IIRC he was a cockney and died a good few year ago'"
There's a bit of info in this [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=34&t=444235blast from the past[/url
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| Quote ="cod'ead"There's a bit of info in this [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=34&t=444235blast from the past[/url'"
Thats fascinating thanks. I thought he was a Cockney, the pub in Leeds was the now sadly closed, Fforde Greene on Roundhay Rd
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| I might have the name wrong but didn't Peter Spring play for us for a couple of seasons. When he arrived he was overweight and a bit rubbish thinking he was here for an easy ride - I think he carried the ball into a tackle against Wigan and was punched in the top of the head and it took him a few games to recover. But then, if I've got the right man, he started training like a demon, broke all the clubs weight-lifting records and really put it about on the pitch. I know I'm being a bit vague but I'm pretty sure he turned out to be a fans favourite and was an FC Hardman.
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