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| James Smailes seems to think Heremaia still counts on quota, so we need to get Obst off quota due to residency to get an Aussie or Kiwi.
Otherwise its more than likely to be Lauaki.
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| Surely heremaia has south sea island ancestry? Makes him non quota if he is
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| He can play for England, he once played in a back garden in Leigh!
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| hypocrites
all these years youve took the mickey and slagged Rovers off, now your as bad hahaha
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"hypocrites
all these years youve took the mickey and slagged Rovers off, now your as bad hahaha'"
Forget the hypocrisy we just don't like you and will slag you off about anything
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"hypocrites
all these years youve took the mickey and slagged Rovers off, now your as bad hahaha'"
I'd say worse. At least you had the excuse of a) Only just getting into Super League and b) Having bigger neighbors who were snapping up the young talent. The fact we've tasted success with a strong core of local and British players and now we're resorting to this is even more embarrassing.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"hypocrites
all these years youve took the mickey and slagged Rovers off, now your as bad hahaha'" Let's just hope we're not going to be as bad on the field as you are with all your foreigners or that will be embarrassing.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"The fact we've tasted success with a strong core of local and British players and now we're resorting to this is even more embarrassing.'"
are you referring to a solitary CC win??, or the dicking in the GF?
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| its a shame really, the franchise's IMO were meant to stop all the need for so many overseas players, no P/R meant you could bring youngsters through, but that hasnt happened at many clubs, unfortantly our 2 clubs havent grasped this notion.
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| Quote ="Standee"are you referring to a solitary CC win??, or the dicking in the GF?'"
I'm talking about the fact we reached more finals in a 4 year period (2005-200icon_cool.gif than all but 2 teams. It's definitely our most successful period for 2 decades. Depends how you define success I guess?
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"hypocrites
all these years youve took the mickey and slagged Rovers off, now your as bad hahaha'"
A first for everything but agree with you here Tony. Certain people saying this is good on here were quick to have a dig at Rovers in a similar situation.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"I'm talking about the fact we reached more finals in a 4 year period (2005-200icon_cool.gif than all but 2 teams. It's definitely our most successful period for 2 decades. Depends how you define success I guess?'"
and I would say our O/S players were of a higher standard, a MUCH higher standard, in those years.
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| Quote ="Standee"and I would say our O/S players were of a higher standard, a MUCH higher standard, in those years.'"
Hmm. Tony, Domic, McMenemy and Swain.. Swain fair enough, not sure about Tony, Domic and McMenemy. They certainly aren't of the standard Fitzgibbon, Berrigan or O'Meley. Moa has performed exceptionally while here too.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Agree but if sides are benefitting from playing the rules to the limit, we shouldn't whinge, but join in with them'"
what a joke the quota is i blame wigan and kr they always fiddle the rules so the others have no choice but to follow
they should make it simple you can have 10 non euro born players but only 5 can be born in oz
no arguements then
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| Quote ="offical rumour monger"what a joke the quota is i blame wigan and kr they always fiddle the rules so the others have no choice but to follow
they should make it simple you can have 10 non euro born players but only 5 can be born in oz
no arguements then'"
But therein lies the problem. Example if Briscoe was born in Australia, but moved here when he was 5 he would then under those rules be classed as 1 of the 10 non EU born players yet say Meley was born in the UK but moved to Aus when he was 5 he would then be classed as non quota. Also why 10? I think 3-5 overseas players maximum is more than enough.
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| Quote ="hullbg"A first for everything but agree with you here Tony. Certain people saying this is good on here were quick to have a dig at Rovers in a similar situation.'"
Same here. I don't agree with it one bit. I long for the days (if they ever come) when we have a side full of top quality British talent supplemented by 2-3 world class imports.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Same here. I don't agree with it one bit. I long for the days (if they ever come) when we have a side full of top quality British talent supplemented by 2-3 world class imports.'"
There is no reason what so ever that we couldnt do that as long as the 2-3 overseas players where of the best quality not the average journeymen we always get.
The problem is the whole quota system is out of date and impossible to police, legally due to employment laws etc, in these modern times people in all walks of life ply their trade anywhere on the planet, so why not RL? I say scrap the whole system, if some clubs want to have a Harlem globe trotters world eleven ala Arsenal, Man City so be it, i am sure most clubs would continue having a mix of British and foreign players, its life now im afraid, the RFL need to get in 21st century, the RFL should concentrate on policing and upholding the salary cap, that is a far more important issue within the game to keep playing fields level .
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"There is no reason what so ever that we couldnt do that as long as the 2-3 overseas players where of the best quality not the average journeymen we always get.
The problem is the whole quota system is out of date and impossible to police, legally due to employment laws etc, in these modern times people in all walks of life ply their trade anywhere on the planet, so why not RL? I say scrap the whole system, if some clubs want to have a Harlem globe trotters world eleven ala Arsenal, Man City so be it, i am sure most clubs would continue having a mix of British and foreign players, its life now im afraid, the RFL need to get in 21st century, the RFL should concentrate on policing and upholding the salary cap, that is a far more important issue within the game to keep playing fields level .'"
If we're going to adopt that policy, the international game would have to be scrapped.
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| Quote ="hullbg"A first for everything but agree with you here Tony. Certain people saying this is good on here were quick to have a dig at Rovers in a similar situation.'"
Tbh I was taking the Mick.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"If we're going to adopt that policy, the international game would have to be scrapped.'"
So be it, international RL is a joke anyway.
Its inevitable, the quota system will have to be scrapped eventually, there is no other way.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Same here. I don't agree with it one bit. I long for the days (if they ever come) when we have a side full of top quality British talent supplemented by 2-3 world class imports.'"
Amen
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"So be it, international RL is a joke anyway.
Its inevitable, the quota system will have to be scrapped eventually, there is no other way.'"
Yup, instead of trying to improve it let's just scrap it. Infact let's get rid of Quins and Catalan.. let's get some more M62 corridor teams in there and boom... we're completely fitting our stereotype.
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| Of course the other side of the coin is that our young British players can learn their trades from experienced Aussie most of which have played rep rugby and generally have a very good attitude and are very professional towards the game.
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| Obst back to Wakefield maybe, alongside this? You don't really need him and they suddenly need a team next year.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Hmm. Tony, Domic, McMenemy and Swain.. Swain fair enough, not sure about Tony, Domic and McMenemy. They certainly aren't of the standard Fitzgibbon, Berrigan or O'Meley. Moa has performed exceptionally while here too.'"
Really? One of our best forwards in recent history and a worldcup winning hooker?
I only took the urine out of Rovers for trying to pull a fast one and failing, plus we aren't deregistering players mid-season.
If the rules allow us then why not? I'd like to see more youngsters coing through but what can we do if they don't for whatever reason?
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