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| They seem very unfit aswell !
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| Quote ="Robbo4"As fans our "loyalty" actually works against us IMO. The board know the majority will keep turning up and buying the shirts etc so they have little incentive to push for performance on the pitch. As fans we tend to look down on other FC fans who criticise the club/team etc so it takes a long time for things to come to a head. Having said that I dont think were far off now. I can see us having played 5 lost 5 in a few weeks and the fans patience will have just about worn out.
I was actually clock watching for the last 25 minutes tonight and if it wasn't for some stupid sense of pride about never leaving early I would have gone, I was bored senseless.'"
I honestly think tonight was the night that the crowd turned.
as you say, for the last 2 years those who criticized or questioned have been looked down on, and told that they must loyally support their team no matter what.
tonight I heard even the most loyal of fans who I've sat near since the KC opened, who have always clapped the team off no matter what...openly criticizing Agar and the board.
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| I would just like to say thank you to cru cru crusaders and wakey for your points reduction because you might save us from getting that wooden spoon........................ or will they?
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| He reminds me of McNamara when he was incharge at Odsal, a slow death.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"He reminds me of McNamara when he was incharge at Odsal, a slow death.'"
And Cullen at Wire.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"So if he lose's the 1st 5 you'll want him out?'"
Well yes, that would make it 3 out of 8. I'm thinking he's not good enough at the moment, but I said I'd give him that many and that's what I'll do.
Quote ="garry brindley"You back a loser you get embarrassed. Sorry son.'"
I'm not backing anyone. I've said I'd give him a certain amount of games and that's what I will do. Just because it doesn't agree with your views doesn't make it wrong.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"And Cullen at Wire.'"
Players who did the club proud but just couldn't hack it at being a head coach.
Four years it took us to get rid of McNamara.
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| Quote ="UllFC"I honestly think tonight was the night that the crowd turned.
as you say, for the last 2 years those who criticized or questioned have been looked down on, and told that they must loyally support their team no matter what.
tonight I heard even the most loyal of fans who I've sat near since the KC opened, who have always clapped the team off no matter what...openly criticizing Agar and the board.'"
Literally all the talk around us during and after the game was about getting rid of Agar. Like you said it felt very different tonight and I dont know a single fan (apart from Expro) who actually thinks Agar is a good coach.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"He reminds me of McNamara when he was incharge at Odsal, a slow death.'"
no doubt the club are phoning McManara up now and asking him if he'll coach us for £6 an hour
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Players who did the club proud but just couldn't hack it at being a head coach.
Four years it took us to get rid of McNamara.'"
There's a lot of similarities. All had a good relationship with their chief exec, all exploited the fan's goodwill, all were relatively cheap...
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Literally all the talk around us during and after the game was about getting rid of Agar. Like you said it felt very different tonight and I dont know a single fan (apart from Expro) who actually thinks Agar is a good coach.'"
If the alternative is McNamara, I'd rather stick with Agar.
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| Quote ="UllFC"no doubt the club are phoning McManara up now and asking him if he'll coach us for £6 an hour
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We nearly got him instead of Sharp.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If the alternative is McNamara, I'd rather stick with Agar.'"
I don't blame you
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| Quote ="B0NES"We nearly got him instead of Sharp.'"
Yer but that was when he was seen as the best up-and-coming coach in SL, he's a proven failure now. If the FC board were thick enough to appoint McNamara I think that would be the final straw for a lot of fans.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If the alternative is McNamara, I'd rather stick with Agar.'"
I'll go on record now and say that if Agar is replaced by McBanana at any point I will not be attending anymore games.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"The way I look at it, how many players have improved since Agar became coach?
Tom Briscoe and Danny Houghton has come up through the ranks. Maybe Sam Moa as well. That's it. All our other players, especially our youngsters, have gone backwards or just haven't progressed.
Washbrook, Wheeldon, Hall, Lee, G.Horne, Burnett to name our youngsters.
Then there are players like Berrigan, Dowes, Radford, King, Long who are just been made to look ordinary compared to how they used to play.
Then there are the players he recruited, Webster (played one game), Thorman (worst signing ever), Tansey (track record), Cordoba (deperate), Calderwood (sick note), Lauaki (liability), Long (sick note), Turner (wasted), Westerman (paid big fee for, but he is one for the future apparently?), Phelps (desperation) and Obst (desperation). Only Moa, O'Meley and Fitz were good signings, and Sharp is hopefully looking like one as well.
Then there is the players he's re-signed.
His recruitment has been poor. His development of players is non-existant, if not backwards. His tactics are shocking. His skill coaching has been extremely lacking (how many missed tackles today!?). His positional selections are baffling (how many back rowers do we need in the team?! We had 7 today!). His interchanges are illogical. The fitness of the players looks awful. He can't get them motivated for games.
Seriously (a VERY serious question here) - is there one good quality that Agar has as a coach? And if so, what is it?[/'"
He's cheap and he does as he's told
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'll go on record now and say that if Agar is replaced by McBanana at any point I will not be attending anymore games.'"
I think many would be in the same boat.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'll go on record now and say that if Agar is replaced by McBanana at any point I will not be attending anymore games.'"
I would do the same but I'd end up being convinced by Rule that we're a Grade A club targetting silverware, despite the fact we've not won a play-off game since 2007.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I'll go on record now and say that if Agar is replaced by McBanana at any point I will not be attending anymore games.'"
Totally agree ! I want our clown gone ASAP but if McBanana is his replacement, I will not go to a single game of his tenure.
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| Its just beyond a joke now.
They are charging too much for the most boring rugby I have ever seen. For the past two seasons home games have felt like a chore, second halfs are very painful (the gloating away fans never make it easier as well) and it becomes more of a game of when you decide to leave or not.
The old faithful sung at the beginning of the game was brilliant the best version I have heard in a long while its just a shame we don't have people at our club who share that same passion.
I reckon I'll be giving the Crusaders game a miss.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Said there was going to be some flair tonight, my god how he was wrong!
Two tries come from a prop barging over from close range.
This is not entertainment, can understand why the attendance was so low.'"
You lot would cream your pants if you could manage such a low croed
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| Quote ="Tooms2000"You lot would cream your pants if you could manage such a low croed'"
When our own team is such a laughing stock we shouldn't be trying to talk trash to Rovers fans, especially those who are here just for the discussion
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I would do the same but I'd end up being convinced by Rule that we're a Grade A club targetting silverware, despite the fact we've not won a play-off game since 2007.
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genuine question but will you still be a grade a club in the next round of franchise and have you had a playoff win since the last round?
I thought alot of it was to do with league positions etc not just stadia and finance.
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| Quote ="Tooms2000"You lot would cream your pants if you could manage such a low croed'"
I'm sure they would, but then again maybe they will take comfort in having a much better team, a coach lightyears ahead of ours and generally beating us all the time.
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| Quote ="B0NES"We nearly got him instead of Sharp.'"
Yes, it was the ultimate insult, McNamara turned us down
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