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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Not dropping. Moving into the halves.'" You may be of that opinion however there are a fair few who have had him as sub claiming him to be a interchange hooker.
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| A lot of people seem to be ignoring the fact that Whiting doesn't want to play at FB.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"You may be of that opinion however there are a fair few who have had him as sub claiming him to be a interchange hooker.'"
Yes, I don't see the point in that. He'd be wasted at 9.
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| Quote ="Kosh"A lot of people seem to be ignoring the fact that Whiting doesn't want to play at FB.'"
We were asked what side we thought would be best, not where we think certain players might like to play.
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11. Manu
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14. Houghton
15. Lauaki (prop)
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17. Whiting (cover backs and spell 2nd row)
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| Quote ="lummy"What is very interesting here, is how many people are discounting Turner. I think he'll be lucky to feature next season.'"
Short memories, on many occasions he has been our best centre. Thankfully the posters on here do not choose the squad, he will feature next year and will get better imo.
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| Quote ="Digby"Houghton off the bench is more impactive for me. Tansey was always most effective at Leeds when playing 9 (according to their fans) and Berrigan was never an International Hooker. He covered there once owing to injury - he was an international Centre.'"
Most Leeds fans (on their board) do not rate Tansey in any position! Firstly there is no evidence he would be better than the established hookers we have, and secondly the biggest area of development he has is learning that he is part of a team, he does not have the consistent individual skills to dictate individual play like he often does. His play is temperamental not an attribute you need in your hooker.
Personally I would sooner continute to develop him further in the f/back role.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Short memories, on many occasions he has been our best centre. Thankfully the posters on here do not choose the squad, he will feature next year and will get better imo.'"
Not been up against much opposition, mind.
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11.tickle
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washbrook,whiting,burnett,turner,lyne,crooks,green,kent,nicklas,cunningham all as cover
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| Quote ="Kosh"Not been up against much opposition, mind.'"
We have managed to get through a season without that one
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| If tasney played hooker he would be the worst defensive hooker in SL history.
His defence is no where near good enough to paly that position.
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| 1. Horne, never been convinced his best position is SO, not creative but has good hands & positional play.
2. Calderwood, subject to fitness should be a shoe in, no one in the side hussles better & is a nuisance.
3. T Briscoe, would like to see him getting more ball in what I gather is his prefered position.
4. Yeaman, only included on the caviat he does skills & passing training in pre-season.
5. Lynne, tough call between him, Sharp and Calders. Would like to see the young lad with an extended run.
6. Tansey, a genuine maverick who in the middle of the park could cause havoc.
7. Long, goes without saying.
8. O'Meley, ditto Long.
9. Houghton, excellent young player who like a fine wine will only get better.
10. Radford, does the hard work without being noticed.
11. Fitzgibbon, ditton Ogre.
12. Tickle, ditto Fitz.
13. Whiting, at last, the ball playing forward gets a go where he could have the most influence.
14. Moa, impact from the bench.
15. Manu, impact from the bench.
16. Berrigan, interchange with Houghton & can provide cover every apart from prop.
17. Luauki, impact from the bench.
I haven't included anyone who we haven't definitely signed.
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12 Manu
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16 New prop (Hargreaves)
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18 Berrigan
19 Prop (Dowes or Radford)
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21 Back up scrum half (Thackeray)
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| Most of Tansey's best games for Leeds came when playing as an impact hooker. He was poor in the centres/fullback role. He had some success in the halves but tends to try to hard and was either really or really bad. He used to kick well from dummy half and ran well.
That said he has matured over the last couple of years and may be able to play the halfback role better, still think that fullback is the position he was born to play, suits his style really well.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"
still think that fullback is the position he was born to play, suits his style really well.'"
Apart from not being able to catch or tackle, that is. He's an exciting attacking player, but comes up with too many howlers to be considered a top full back. Rocks or diamonds, I think someone once said: rocks in defence, diamonds in attack.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Apart from not being able to catch or tackle, that is. He's an exciting attacking player, but comes up with too many howlers to be considered a top full back. Rocks or diamonds, I think someone once said: rocks in defence, diamonds in attack.'" Bit harsh IMO, his positional play is [iiffy[/i some times, but to say he can't catch the ball is very wide of the mark. He's only dropped about 5-6 all season, his catch away at Cas this year when he'd ran 30 yards across field, arms fully extended to take one knee height is just one example of his catching ability.
The kid is quality, just what the team needs.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Most of Tansey's best games for Leeds came when playing as an impact hooker. He was poor in the centres/fullback role. He had some success in the halves but tends to try to hard and was either really or really bad. He used to kick well from dummy half and ran well.
That said he has matured over the last couple of years and may be able to play the halfback role better, still think that fullback is the position he was born to play, suits his style really well.'"
Still to be convinced myself. F/B require an all round skill set and Tansey lacks alot of defensive necessaries. I don't think he's a bad full back but we make allowances for his defensive frailties because of his support play and flair. He's not an all rounder and that's what I'd expect from a FB.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Bit harsh IMO, his positional play is [iiffy[/i some times, but to say he can't catch the ball is very wide of the mark. He's only dropped about 5-6 all season, his catch away at Cas this year when he'd ran 30 yards across field, arms fully extended to take one knee height is just one example of his catching ability.
The kid is quality, just what the team needs.'"
I agree with the catching point. I'm sure if he had good enough judgment to get near the ball in the first place, he may be able to catch it. You've not mentioned his one on one defence, which at times has been equally as poor as Lauaki's. I think his frailties would be less exposed in a different position, but I also hope he can become adept at traditional fullback play - I just can't see it.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Bit harsh IMO, his positional play is [iiffy[/i some times, but to say he can't catch the ball is very wide of the mark. He's only dropped about 5-6 all season, his catch away at Cas this year when he'd ran 30 yards across field, arms fully extended to take one knee height is just one example of his catching ability.
The kid is quality, just what the team needs.'"
He'll pull out a super catch like the one you've described, and then drop a relatively easy one straight after. What I ought to have said was he can't catch [iconsistently[/i well enough to be a top full back. And I reckon it's more than any 5-6 he's dropped. Particularly if you include the ones he ought to have fielded on the full, but instead allowed to bounce. And the ones he doesn't get in the right position to even attempt.
I agree that he's a quality player and I wouldn't even consider suggesting that he shouldn't be in the team. I just have my doubts about him as a (defensive) full back.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"He'll pull out a super catch like the one you've described, and then drop a relatively easy one straight after. What I ought to have said was he can't catch [iconsistently[/i well enough to be a top full back. And I reckon it's more than any 5-6 he's dropped. Particularly if you include the ones he ought to have fielded on the full, but instead allowed to bounce. And the ones he doesn't get in the right position to even attempt.
I agree that he's a quality player and I wouldn't even consider suggesting that he shouldn't be in the team. I just have my doubts about him as a (defensive) full back.'" I take your point, but isn't it that you'd rather have a "Briscoe" type FB over a "Tony" type?
Some people prefer a defensive minded FB but it's not how the game's played anymore. With most teams (here and in Oz) preferring a "prop" type 13. FB is a pivot role now.
Regarding Tansey, he's only 23 and is in his first full season as a regular, in a position he's only played for 18 months or so. Plenty of time to [isure[/i up his defence.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I take your point, but isn't it that you'd rather have a "Briscoe" type FB over a "Tony" type?
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Not really. I think Tony was a better tackler than Tansey, for a start. If I was being really choosy, I'd say I'd like a full back that can defend as well as attack. Billy Slater would be nice.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Not really. I think Tony was a better tackler than Tansey, for a start. If I was being really choosy, I'd say I'd like a full back that can defend as well as attack. Billy Slater would be nice.'" He would indeed. Tansey is a lesser version of Jarryd Hayne, plenty of attacking flair but is positionally naive and gets caught out. Perseverance and coaching should turn Tansey into Englands FB IMO.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I take your point, but isn't it that you'd rather have a "Briscoe" type FB over a "Tony" type?
Some people prefer a defensive minded FB but it's not how the game's played anymore. With most teams (here and in Oz) preferring a "prop" type 13. FB is a pivot role now.
Regarding Tansey, he's only 23 and is in his first full season as a regular, in a position he's only played for 18 months or so. Plenty of time to [isure[/i up his defence.'"
I worry for Briscoe - I think his fearless approach is knocking it out of him, and he's fast becoming a bit ordinary. Whilst I wanted him to stay, now I would far rather have Tansey than him. One thing about Briscoe is that he knew how to score by following Richard Horne around the field - that's something that perhaps Tansey can pick up on if we get any extended appearances from Horne.
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