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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"Still not seen any comments that persuades me to change my mind.'"
That probably says more about you than anyone else TBH.
Quote ="VoiceOfReason"Looks like =#0040FFyou are settling for AVERAGE once again.'"
Odd choice of words for someone who claims to be a fellow Hull FC fan...
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| Peter Cusack is a workhorse, you dont get to play in all them grandfinals for the roosters if your a poor player. I would be almost certain if you asked Adrian Morley if he rated Cusack then the answer would be yes. He is a true professional and a real players player.
At the minute i would have him in my team over Sam Moa any day of the week.
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| For average check out some of the other props in the competition this year. You say you are yet to be convinced so how about you convince us as to why Moa deserves to be in over Cusack?
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| Quote ="hullbg"For average check out some of the other props in the competition this year. You say you are yet to be convinced so how about you convince us as to why Moa deserves to be in over Cusack?'"
Yes, try the new addition over at caravan park.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Quote ="VoiceOfReason"Still not seen any comments that persuades me to change my mind.'"
That probably says more about you than anyone else TBH.
Quote ="VoiceOfReason"Looks like =#0040FFyou are settling for AVERAGE once again.'"
Odd choice of words for someone who claims to be a fellow Hull FC fan...
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Ohhhh pleeaaasssseeee......just becus I dont av the full comand of this queens inglish.....obviously makes me a ROVERS supporter in disguise. I usually have respect for Mods.
I have PLAYED, COACHED and REFEREED Rugby League. I have supported Hull FC for nearly 40years.
I dont look through rose coloured spectacles, unlike some on here.
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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"Ohhhh pleeaaasssseeee......just becus I dont av the full comand of this queens inglish.....obviously makes me a ROVERS supporter in disguise. I usually have respect for Mods.'"
I never said anything about you being a Rovers fan. I said it was an odd choice of words. None of the rest of your posts have hinted at a lack of basic literacy so I assumed that it was deliberate. After all, it's not even close to 'we', is it?
Quote ="VoiceOfReason"I have PLAYED, COACHED and REFEREED Rugby League. I have supported Hull FC for nearly 40years.'"
Congratulations. None of this, however, automatically makes your opinion more worthwhile than anyone else's.
Quote ="VoiceOfReason"I dont look through rose coloured spectacles, unlike some on here.'"
Here we go - the usual cop-out of someone who can't make a strong case to support an unpopular opinion. Why not just list your reasons why you think that Moa would make more of a contribution than Cusack instead of getting narky?
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"You are entitled to your opinions bud, and I respect your opinion however like most I think Cusack has started the campaign well and is doing more than enough to keep his shirt.'"
funny enough agar must think the same
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| I like Moa but I thought he struggled a little last night. He made one or two decent carries but got targetted badly in defence.
It's a shame that people can only appreciate good play by a forward if it comes in the form of a tackle bust or big hit. Cusack's control of the ruck both with and without the ball is spot on and is just as imortant as someone knocking a defender flying, probably more so. Very good tacker and always dictates the speed of the play the ball, yet penalties conceded by him are like rocking horse 5h1t. When he takes the ball in he always finds his knees and elbows which allows him to play it quickly. Whilst it's exciting to see someone riving around and fighting for that last metre, in reality all it's doing is allowing the defence to get set. You need a mixture of the two.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I like Moa but I thought he struggled a little last night. He made one or two decent carries but got targetted badly in defence.
It's a shame that people can only appreciate good play by a forward if it comes in the form of a tackle bust or big hit. Cusack's control of the ruck both with and without the ball is spot on and is just as imortant as someone knocking a defender flying, probably more so. Very good tacker and always dictates the speed of the play the ball, yet penalties conceded by him are like rocking horse 5h1t. When he takes the ball in he always finds his knees and elbows which allows him to play it quickly. Whilst it's exciting to see someone riving around and fighting for that last metre, in reality all it's doing is allowing the defence to get set. You need a mixture of the two.'"
Totally agree about Cusack top forward which is why his NRL career spells out his ability. Moa did OK and we didn't miss Radford at all. That said I would play Radford next week. It's called strength in depth.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I thought Cusack had a fine game, actually.'"
so did i and he capped it off with a try,
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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"Still not seen any comments that persuades me to change my mind.
An average forward, who NOT excelling at any part of a forwards game.
Who's definately NOT progressing.
Looks like you are settling for AVERAGE once again.
Moa needs to replace him.'"
rubbish, Sam did not show anything last night to say he should be in ahead of yak.
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"rubbish, Sam did not show anything last night to say he should be in ahead of yak.'"
But he did say that were Yak unavailable we would not be weakened by playing Sam in his place.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"But he did say that were Yak unavailable we would not be weakened by playing Sam in his place.'"
possibly however IMO i think Cusak brings more to the side than Sam,
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"possibly however IMO i think Cusak brings more to the side than Sam,'"
Big fan of Cusack myself so agree with you. Sam is good cover and I'll guarantee you that we will be without one if not two props over a 25+ league game season and this is why our pack strength in depth is crucial. Sam is good enough quality to contribute to this squad game.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Big fan of Cusack myself so agree with you. Sam is good cover and I'll guarantee you that we will be without one if not two props over a 25+ league game season and this is why our pack strength in depth is crucial. Sam is good enough quality to contribute to this squad game.'"
I agree Sam is quality I am not disagreeing there, I just find Cusack brings more to the team, thats all. our pack will be the key to our (hopefully) success.
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"I agree Sam is quality I am not disagreeing there, I just find Cusack brings more to the team, thats all. our pack will be the key to our (hopefully) success.'"
Of that there is absolutely no doubt.
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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"Still not seen any comments that persuades me to change my mind.
An average forward, who NOT excelling at any part of a forwards game.
Who's definately NOT progressing.
Looks like you are settling for AVERAGE once again.
Moa needs to replace him.'"
Shocking.
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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"I thought once again Cusack offered very little against a poor Castleford team.
When Radford returns, we keep Moa and give him more game time to impress with what I see as givin us much more agression than Cusack.
thoughts please'"
where was you sat?
the roger millward stand?
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| Right lets try again.
Based upon the way other players have advanced there game this season, I have been disappointed that the yak hasn't.
Yes, hes doing ok....buts that the problem, in my opinion we need to try Moa in that position in order to assess (and not after 1 game) wether or not big sam can bring more to the party?
How else as a team are we going to get stronger if we dont give fringe players the opportunity to show there worth?
And for other forum members who throw the cheap rovers shots at me....Grow up this is a an adult discussion.
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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"in my opinion we need to try Moa in that position in order to assess (and not after 1 game) wether or not big sam can bring more to the party?
How else as a team are we going to get stronger if we dont give fringe players the opportunity to show there worth?'"
The guy has been at the club for a good while now and all parties will surely know what he brings to the table, they see him in training every day. Maybe he just is always going to be a fringe player but like a few have said, he will get a chance somewhere down the line.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"The guy has been at the club for a good while now and all parties will surely know what he brings to the table, they see him in training every day. Maybe he just is always going to be a fringe player but like a few have said, he will get a chance somewhere down the line.'"
The only way forward is to give players game time. Based upon last seasons game time, he deserves his chance, while else sign him.
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| A pack has to work together and has to have balance. Lauaki, Manu, O'Meeley can't do what they do without the likes of Yak, Radford and Dowes, also Berro can't do his job without the pack going forward and trying to ptb quickly.
IMO we have great balance to our pack.
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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"The only way forward is to give players game time. Based upon last seasons game time, he deserves his chance, while else sign him.'"
Oooh! I know this one! It's because it would be fecking stupid to go into the season without any cover for the first choice props, isn't it?
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"where was you sat?
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careful those quotes are now considered to be agressive posting
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| Quote ="VoiceOfReason"The only way forward is to give players game time. Based upon last seasons game time, he deserves his chance, while else sign him.'"
but however as the rest of us seem to have grasped thus far, there is only 13 at one time allowed onto the field and usually those with more to offer get picked first, however should FC change into a gridiron team overnight i am sure you will see Sam get a starting spot as a lineman!!
remember that Cussack is reported to be leaving at the end of the year so how better to bring an unknown "project" through and get him fit than a decent season learning the game from SOO and grand final class players!!
whilst i am sure he is not happy about being a bit part thus far i am sure he is happy to wait his turn!
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