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| Quote ="Bigger Daddy"Agreed. Why make it public? The "investigation" might clear one (or both) players. If my boss suspended me, I'd expect the opportunity to state my case before anything was made public.'"
How do you know they haven't been given a chance to state their case already? If the "incident" took place on Friday, could well be that they've looked at it this morning, hence a statement this afternoon. Pleased that the club's acting at least, some players have been taking the pi$$ for 10 years and new players soon understand what the boundaries are at a club.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"How do you know they haven't been given a chance to state their case already? '"
Thats just it you don't. All this has done is get the tongues wagging.
Quote ="Mrs Barista"Pleased that the club's acting at least'"
What if the club have not acted properly and are found out to be in the wrong?? Would you still be pleased??
How anyone can come to any conclusions either way after reading the press release is beyond me.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"How do you know they haven't been given a chance to state their case already? If the "incident" took place on Friday, could well be that they've looked at it this morning, hence a statement this afternoon. Pleased that the club's acting at least, some players have been taking the pi$$ for 10 years and new players soon understand what the boundaries are at a club.'"
Possibly. But the website states "pending an internal disciplinary investigation". In other words, the investigation is not yet complete and so far no one has been found guilty or not. If they are found guilty of something, then there will be plenty of time to publicise it along with any punishment.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Thats just it you don't. All this has done is get the tongues wagging.
What if the club have not acted properly and are found out to be in the wrong?? Would you still be pleased??
How anyone can come to any conclusions either way after reading the press release is beyond me.'"
If there was a public scrap outside a bar tongues would soon have been wagging anyway. The club have decided on a course of action and advised the fans via their normal means of communication. Absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the club would have been hammered by the usual suspects on here if no comms was forthcoming so they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I welcome a more proactive approach to these matters by the club and hope that these types of incidents become a thing of the past as the juvenile pi$$ heads that cause them are gradually weeded out.
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| I dont recall the club suspending a high profile member of staff for fighting last year
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Strange they didn't take the same action when Radford battered Vella in White Horse
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Thats just it you don't. All this has done is get the tongues wagging.
What if the club have not acted properly and are found out to be in the wrong?? Would you still be pleased??
How anyone can come to any conclusions either way after reading the press release is beyond me.'"
The squad for Wigan is announced on Wednesday. Both would be certainties in the 19 and neither are available. Better to announce this now and get on with the week's preparation than do it midweek IMO.
What do you mean "if the club hadn't acted properly"? They've not said either are guilty of anything, but that there's a disciplinary matter to investigate and both are suspended. They must have grounds for an investigation, otherwise there wouldn't be one.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Not sure any-one is complaining Wilf, I suspect every-one agrees with what you are saying.'"
Probably are sorry I guess I got that one wrong! Incidentally the club can't win here and I think they have announced it because it would have got out anyway, at least we now know it is true, they ain't trying to hide it, and in the spirit of a fair hearing we must now await developments!
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| Quote ="Bigger Daddy"Possibly. But the website states "pending an internal disciplinary investigation". In other words, the investigation is not yet complete and so far no one has been found guilty or not. If they are found guilty of something, then there will be plenty of time to publicise it along with any punishment.'"
The club is well within its rights to suspend employees pending investigation and also well within its rights to publicise that it has done so. People who go to court are innocent until proven guilty but their names are not withheld from the public domain. This happens all the time in other walks of life. If one or both players are subsequently found to be innocent then they will no doubt return to work fully exonerated.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"If one or both players are subsequently found to be innocent then they will no doubt return to work fully exonerated.'"
I'm not sure the last 6 pages of posts back that up. People are already slating both players on the basis of rumours.
TBH I'm just fed up that we have generated yet another negative headline.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"If there was a public scrap outside a bar tongues would soon have been wagging anyway. The club have decided on a course of action and advised the fans via their normal means of communication. Absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the club would have been hammered by the usual suspects on here if no comms was forthcoming so they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I welcome a more proactive approach to these matters by the club and hope that these types of incidents become a thing of the past as the juvenile pi$$ heads that cause them are gradually weeded out.'"
Spot on.
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| So........
What have they done then?!
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Seeing that nobody really knows what happened, WTF did Hull bother putting this story on the website in the first place??
All it has achieved is to hieghten the speculation as to what really did happen and get the tongues wagging. Had they not put the story up nobody would have been any the wiser.'" If Disciplinary action take place Hull F C cannot talk about it ..If Hull did the players could use it against the club in any Tribunal ..Do it by the book end off.. gossip is for forums
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| Quote ="Hutchie"I dont recall the club suspending a high profile member of staff for fighting last year
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| I know that there was a barbi at thacks house on friday night then they were of to the weir bar after it,i also saw a player driving has car from there sober, but driving with his arm in a sling.Not very clever.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Thats just it you don't. All this has done is get the tongues wagging.
What if the club have not acted properly and are found out to be in the wrong?? Would you still be pleased??
How anyone can come to any conclusions either way after reading the press release is beyond me.'"
Sometimes I think you are merely on here to search for arguments with Mrs B
Standard procedures pending disciplinary are being enforced n'est pas? No assumptions being made.
Indeed, it is your remark suggesting that the club could be acting improperly is the inference suggesting conclusions should be jumped to.... or are you just seeking Mrs B's response?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Sometimes I think you are merely on here to search for arguments with Mrs B
Standard procedures pending disciplinary are being enforced n'est pas? No assumptions being made.
Indeed, it is your remark suggesting that the club could be acting improperly is the inference suggesting conclusions should be jumped to.... or are you just seeking Mrs B's response?'"
TBF Mr Gekko has been bigging up Tommy Lee for several weeks now, which I assume is because he's been linked with Rovers. I suspect he's trying to dial down the impact of this incident in case he's to be announced as a Rovers player tomorrow, what with it being 1st September and all.
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| Quote ="shagnasty"Ask the 2 doormen in sugarmill, when they get released from hri'"
rocky lee and sugar ray burnett. knocking out max n paddy!
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| Quote ="red al"rocky lee and sugar ray burnett.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Probably are sorry I guess I got that one wrong! Incidentally the club can't win here and I think they have announced it because it would have got out anyway, at least we now know it is true, they ain't trying to hide it, and in the spirit of a fair hearing we must now await developments!'"
I think the club can win . And what the club have started with these two players is hopefully a start of something new regarding discipline within the club.
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| Quote ="red al"rocky lee and sugar ray burnett.
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Still not as good as Mick "Horizontal " Vella is it.
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| Quote ="B0NES"I think the club can win . And what the club have started with these two players is hopefully a start of something new regarding discipline within the club.'"
I hope so too
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