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| Quote ="Standee"As CEO of the club being down Prinny Ave after a Derby game was unprofessional.'"
Fully agree, surely they should be in crown or salthouse tavern
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| Quote ="Standee"I can't believe IanP lamped Jimmy, got even more respect for him now!
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Well it depends, self defence is one thing but 'giving a few back' gives the impression that it was more than self defence. I'm not saying the guy who started it didn't deserve it and I'm not condemning Rule for doing it, but yes I would say it could be seen as unprofessional.'" So somebody hit you in a pub ..you say sorry for they actions and buy them a drink ..I don't think so
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| Quote ="kt170496"So somebody hit you in a pub ..you say sorry for they actions and buy them a drink ..I don't think so
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Yer ofcourse 'cos that's what I said, unreal comments from you again.
He's entitled to defend himself as anyone is, but if he's getting some 'extra digs' in then however much it is morally justified, as CEO of Super League team then that is unprofessional. As a few people have said already, he should have been sensible enough to have avoided a busy drinking area on the day of a derby anyway.
From your sig I can tell you are much older than me so I don't wish to be too disrespectful, but you do spout some utter e.
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| Quote ="Mulder"Someone who witnessed the incident told me the person was a disgruntled fan who no longer goes to the KC'"
Incorrect.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"From your sig I can tell you are much older than me so I don't wish to be too disrespectful, but you do spout some utter e.'"
Being alive longer doesn't preclude people from sputing garbage!!
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| Quote ="Mulder"Someone who witnessed the incident told me the person was a disgruntled fan who no longer goes to the KC'"
It was after the kc derby that we won and he is a rovers fan.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Yer ofcourse 'cos that's what I said, unreal comments from you again.
He's entitled to defend himself as anyone is, but if he's getting some 'extra digs' in then however much it is morally justified, as CEO of Super League team then that is unprofessional. As a few people have said already, he should have been sensible enough to have avoided a busy drinking area on the day of a derby anyway.
From your sig I can tell you are much older than me so I don't wish to be too disrespectful, but you do spout some utter e.'" You are the one who spout Sh-t if people dont agree with you they are wrong ..get your head from up your backside ..people are allowed to go anywhere without somebody hitting them
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| Quote ="Standee"Being alive longer doesn't preclude people from sputing garbage!!
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| Quote ="kt170496"You are the one who spout Sh-t if people dont agree with you they are wrong ..get your head from up your backside ..people are allowed to go anywhere without somebody hitting them
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Yet again you quote me and then respond to something you pretend I've said. I'm more than capable of admitting when I'm wrong about something, as you'll see if you read the first pages of this thread.
You're clearly an old school guy with no concept of what's required of modern day professionals and that's fine, but once again it does make you very very wrong.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Yet again you quote me and then respond to something you pretend I've said. I'm more than capable of admitting when I'm wrong about something, as you'll see if you read the first pages of this thread.
You're clearly an old school guy with no concept of what's required of modern day professionals and that's fine, but once again it does make you very very wrong.'"
Yup, whilst I agree that people should not be in fear of violence, but I'd also expect someone in Jimmy's position to be wise enough to avoid the potential situation in the first place.
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| Quote ="Standee"Yup, whilst I agree that people should not be in fear of violence, but I'd also expect someone in Jimmy's position to be wise enough to avoid the potential situation in the first place.'"
That's what I'm saying, I never said anything that could remotely be taken to mean Rule deserved what happened, but he could have avoided
the situation in the first place if he'd used his common sense. And once it did happen, if Rule's actions went beyond self defence then they shouldn't have done, whatever the justification.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"That's what I'm saying, I never said anything that could remotely be taken to mean Rule deserved what happened, but he could have avoided
the situation in the first place if he'd used his common sense. And once it did happen, if Rule's actions went beyond self defence then they shouldn't have done, whatever the justification.'"
Given how naieve some of his decisions have been in the last few years, you have to question his suitability for the top job.
I know people will quote the A grade and all that, but with a brand new stadium, fanatic fans (to the point of stupidity in their faithfulness in cases) it would have taken a bit of a moron not to get a grade A.
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| Quote ="Standee"Given how naieve some of his decisions have been in the last few years, you have to question his suitability for the top job.
I know people will quote the A grade and all that, but with a brand new stadium, fanatic fans (to the point of stupidity in their faithfulness in cases) it would have taken a bit of a moron not to get a grade A.'"
I've often thought that recently, think he was commercial or marketing director before he got promoted? He seems ideally suited to a role like that but doesn't have the knowledge of RL to make a good CEO.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"I've often thought that recently, think he was commercial or marketing director before he got promoted? He seems ideally suited to a role like that but doesn't have the knowledge of RL to make a good CEO.'"
He's smooth, he says the right things to the right people (most of the time), I don't think there is a lot of respect for him amongst his counterparts though.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"That's what I'm saying, I never said anything that could remotely be taken to mean Rule deserved what happened, but he could have avoided
the situation in the first place if he'd used his common sense. And once it did happen, if Rule's actions went beyond self defence then they shouldn't have done, whatever the justification.'"
Your always making these type of gaffs and then trying to wriggle out of them, I well remember the posting of links fiasco! As the police were called to the incident when Rule had his nose broken in two places by a Rovers fan, if the constabulary were not satisfied he had only used necessary force, he would have been charged! Friends in the Police have told me since that's all he used, but I also believe he packs a bit of a punch too!
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| Quote ="Standee"I can't believe IanP lamped Jimmy, got even more respect for him now!
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Once upon a time maybe
The "alledged" incident was regretable and involved a supporter not of this club. He was out on Princes ave post match with some of the back room staff and he was accosted, he did not deserve or warrant that.
I keep sticking up for Jimmy, I think he has a bad press and has done a good job for the club. I have not had a problem with him, apart from a wayward email which I sent by mistake, that was my fault not his. He does what he is instructed to do by his employer and he has done for me a good job. Like Trish Goldsmith the fans are very quick to criticise when they can not see what they do. They do a lot of good work with sponsors etc and have both have contributed to the success FC have become since those dark days of 1999.
[size=200So there[/size
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The "alledged" incident was regretable and involved a supporter not of this club. He was out on Princes ave post match with some of the back room staff and he was accosted, he did not deserve or warrant that.
I keep sticking up for Jimmy, I think he has a bad press and has done a good job for the club. I have not had a problem with him, apart from a wayward email which I sent by mistake, that was my fault not his. He does what he is instructed to do by his employer and he has done for me a good job. Like Trish Goldsmith the fans are very quick to criticise when they can not see what they do. They do a lot of good work with sponsors etc and have both have contributed to the success FC have become since those dark days of 1999.
[size=200So there[/size'" Stop posting sence Ian or is it an age thing
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Your always making these type of gaffs and then trying to wriggle out of them, I well remember the posting of links fiasco! As the police were called to the incident when Rule had his nose broken in two places by a Rovers fan, if the constabulary were not satisfied he had only used necessary force, he would have been charged! Friends in the Police have told me since that's all he used, but I also believe he packs a bit of a punch too!'"
Ok, first off the stadium announcer issue was neither a gaff nor a fiasco, I still maintain I have every right to tell someone who's wages I contribute towards that they are appalling at their job. Plenty of people agreed with me at the time so don't try dragging that one up again just because you had a dig in you're column.
Secondly, you've clearly not noted the 'if' in my outlining of the Rule on Princes av. situation and his reaction to it. Just to enlighten you here are a selection of quotes from earlier in the thread to which I was basing my response:
Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Rovers fan went over to him and to cut a long story short, the conversation changed in seconds from the kid trying to be all matey, matey and dignified in defeat to him becoming abusive. JR offered no-one outside but when the kid lashed out and hit him in the face, JR gave him a few back. I dont think JR can be called unprofessional for acting in self defence, Can you ?'"
Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"So you think that he does not have the right to be in licensed premises in Hull?
Is there any suggestion that Rule was doing anything wrong?
Was he behaving badly?
Was he drunk?
No.
He was minding his own business when some yob came up and had a go at him. He stuck up for himself and saw the oaf off. He would have been quite justified in having him arrested and prosecuted (it was all on CCTV) but decided it would only inflame the bad relations between the two clubs and their supporters.
I don't often stick up for Rule but I'm going to on this occasion.'"
As you will see if you bothered to read the rest of the thread, all I have said is that IMO Rule wasn't very sensible to go drinking in a busy area on the day of a derby, and IF his actions went beyond self defence, then it was unprofessional of him to do that, because some people seem to think it is fine for him to retaliate as much as he likes.
While we are talking about 'gaffs', describing a team who haven't won SL for two years as 'current champions' must count a fair bit higher than anything I've said.
I think the expression people use on here to posts as silly as yours is 'jog on'
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Im not sure he was agreeing with the things you've said and implied, you have a very furtive imagination
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| Quote ="StrickyArms""Furtive" ?'"
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| Quote ="StrickyArms""Furtive" ?'"
It's great when people try and use fancy pants words completely out of context isn't it!!
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| Aaah! You mean 'fertile'. Or do you?
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| Quote ="StrickyArms""Furtive" ?'"
It means sly and sneaky, like the way he's been quoting me and then responding to something completely different in an attempt to make it look like I've said something stupid.
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