.. which surprises me. When I saw them on Sky last their pack looked excellent with Chad Randall pulling the strings.

no coincidence randall is out injured??

Cant argue with most of that tbh BUT Us, Hudds, Cas ect prove the league is becoming less predictable and Leeds and Saints have had it a lot less of their own way then they are used to.

4 and 6 point above Hudds respectively. Fair do's , It's not as big as previous years but but it's still a decent margin in RL terms.

Ive highlighted the key word there.
Now add that Bradford and yourselves are nowhere in sight with Us and Cas etc heavily involved IMHO just proves how much more balanced the league seems this year.

didn't know that but wouldn't be surprised

i think that is down to us, not sure about the bulls, being complacent, thanks to sharp rewarding players with contract extensions that weren't warrented

Poor Coach recruitment imo. Bradford , Catalans and indeed us has had a big say this year .

But there is still a finite amount of cap to go around and if you get those players then next year someone else doesn't.
Then we then have the same conversation next year etc.

Only so many coaches for all the teams.
Next year you get a good coach someone else loses one.
My point is that with cap restrictions just saying 'Come and play for 'insert team here'' no longer works.
Ditto for the coaches.

next year SHOULD see an improvement, then hopefully players who were given two year contracts last season, who should never have got them will get the, "thanks for the effort and goodbye" handshake

An improvement to you will probably to the detriment (sp) of another team.
Not on a wind up but Cooke, Briscoe and Weeldon as points in case.

cooke and briscoe definatly, but wheeldon?? don't think he would've made any difference to our team if he had stayed

We did not deserve to lose

But you agree with the point though!

You spawned it and look like an utter cack team. you are garbage

I guess someone has been on the beer.


Do yourself a favour and go to bed as us normal people are trying to have a proper conversation.

depends who signs them? look at saints with hargreaves for example, nothing special at wigan, but excelled at saints due to having better players, players i'm referring to will most probably retire!(hopefully)

My point is that a constant rotation of players due to cap constraints will cause a balanced league for what ever reason as we have discussed as teams can no longer 'horde' players.

but the players that get rotated, will mainly be fringe players, cant imagine the likes of leeds letting mcguire or burrows leave due to the cap, clubs like us, yourself, hudds, cas, wigan will be fighting it out to sign them type of players. what will be intersting will be sts' in 3 or 4 years, how good will their youngsters really be when the likes of cunningham have retired??

But SL is becoming more and more a squad sport so teams that put all there eggs in their first 17 may well come unstuck.

At least the players made an effort and turned up....

Theyv'e handled it well so far with the likes of scully retiring etc but i agree saints will be in a major transitional period when the likes of long, cunningham, gilmour leave

Eastmond, Moore, Smith, Wheeler, Clough, Dean and Ashurst all look very good, the future is in good hands at St Helens.

he played well..