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| Quote ="Fully"Debatable.
All the media report we were the better out of the two sides. The Mirror, Yorkshire Evening Post both agree that they were bad decisions.
In a way they did contribute to our loss, but other aspects also demoralisingly cost us too. That penalty incident gave you the lead and also the impetus when really, it should have been the opposite way to us.
That first try of yours shouldn't have been again, and we should have been heading in at 6-0. That try lifted your spirits, and all too often the sides who score it come out better for it (which is what happened).
As for the final try, Calderwood clearly shoves Shenton while he attempts to shield it out, which again, should have gone our way. Swings and roundabouts really, but that should have been a loss in your favour really, not ours. Severely disappointed, but we have to move on. No time to cry about it really.'"
I see things without the rose tinted glasses most do on here, and i agree with you on all 3 counts
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"... and if it wasn't for the men in the middle against salford we'd still be in the cup. Life's a bitch isn't it ?'"
It would have been a travesty if Salford had lost that match , we was that poor and deserved nothing
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| Quote ="The Brother"icon_rolleyes.gif
It would have been a travesty if Salford had lost that match , we was that poor and deserved nothing'"
but we didnt deserve to lose from that BLATANT forward pass either,
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"but we didnt deserve to lose from that BLATANT forward pass either,'"
We got we deserved out of that match nothing, i thought we got a few calls during the day in our favour, yes the blatant forward pass changed the result but we didn't do nothing to warrant us winning the match
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| Quote ="The Brother"We got we deserved out of that match nothing, i thought we got a few calls during the day in our favour, yes the blatant forward pass changed the result but we didn't do nothing to warrant us winning the match'"
and if that BLATANT forward pass had been seen we would have won.
god i know things are not all that rosy in the hull fc world but hell im pleased i dont live in your pessimistic place.
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| Quote ="The Brother"icon_rolleyes.gif
It would have been a travesty if Salford had lost that match , we was that poor and deserved nothing'"
Which counts for precisely nowt.
In sport you will occasionally lose games you deserved to win, and win games you deserved to lose. The point is that all this hair-shirt-wearing self-flagellation whenever we manage a win is rather tiresome and pointless.
Cas had plenty of chances to win yesterday. They didn't. ATEOTD we did enough to beat them. That's all that counts.
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| Quote ="The Brother"We got we deserved out of that match nothing, i thought we got a few calls during the day in our favour, yes the blatant forward pass changed the result but we didn't do nothing to warrant us winning the match'"
Ah the old 'we got what we deserved' line. You win by scoring more points than the opposition. That is the way that rugby league games are decided. We would have scored more than Salford had that pass been ruled forward. Anything else around that is bullsh[ii[/it and waffle. The fact is that some, like you, blame the ref when we win and absolve him when we lose. Bizarre. It's like you're disappointed when we win and revelling in it when we lose. Even more bizarre.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Which counts for precisely nowt.
In sport you will occasionally lose games you deserved to win, and win games you deserved to lose. The point is that all this hair-shirt-wearing self-flagellation whenever we manage a win is rather tiresome and pointless.
Cas had plenty of chances to win yesterday. They didn't. ATEOTD we did enough to beat them. That's all that counts.'"
indeed a win is a win and whats more its 2 priceless points.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Ah the old 'we got what we deserved' line. You win by scoring more points than the opposition. That is the way that rugby league games are decided. We would have scored more than Salford had that pass been ruled forward. Anything else around that is bullsh[ii[/it and waffle. The fact is that some, like you, blame the ref when we win and absolve him when we lose. Bizzare.'"
I get the feeling that certain 'revolutionaries' have got to the point where they're actually disappointed when we win.
That's not just bizarre, that's pitiful.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I get the feeling that certain 'revolutionaries' have got to the point where they're actually disappointed when we win.
That's not just bizarre, that's pitiful.'"
I have come to the conclusion its where they get their thrills ;when we lose its "hey another weekend of moaning yippeee"
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| Not only did Bentham make a host of shocking decisions (Hull scrum instead of a Cas penalty when Calderwood pushed Shenton, Hull penalty instead of a Cas penalty when Calderwood was all over Wainwright, gave a try from 3 forward passes and a knock on in the build up).
But he also, on no fewer then 5 occasions, started Cas on the 1st tackle instead of the zero after collecting the ball after FC knock ons - how can you explain that one down to tinted specs?
How could we also forget the constant interference from the play the ball from Hull - Cas should have been awarded a lot more then just the 1 penalty, in fact it should have been a lot closer to 10.
Cas had plenty of chances to win the game, but ultimately not taking them chances and Bentham being atrocious cost Cas the game.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I get the feeling that certain 'revolutionaries' have got to the point where they're actually disappointed when we win.
That's not just bizarre, that's pitiful.'"
I think it affects the planning meeting attendance level down at revolution central when we win. Been a tough couple of weeks in that respect.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Not only did Bentham make a host of shocking decisions (Hull scrum instead of a Cas penalty when Calderwood pushed Shenton, Hull penalty instead of a Cas penalty when Calderwood was all over Wainwright, gave a try from 3 forward passes and a knock on in the build up).
But he also, on no fewer then 5 occasions, started Cas on the 1st tackle instead of the zero after collecting the ball after FC knock ons - how can you explain that one down to tinted specs?
How could we also forget the constant interference from the play the ball from Hull - Cas should have been awarded a lot more then just the 1 penalty, in fact it should have been a lot closer to 10.
Cas had plenty of chances to win the game, but ultimately not taking them chances and Bentham being atrocious cost Cas the game.'"
and there lies the answer to why we won and Cas lost
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Not only did Bentham make a host of shocking decisions (Hull scrum instead of a Cas penalty when Calderwood pushed Shenton, Hull penalty instead of a Cas penalty when Calderwood was all over Wainwright, gave a try from 3 forward passes and a knock on in the build up).
But he also, on no fewer then 5 occasions, started Cas on the 1st tackle instead of the zero after collecting the ball after FC knock ons - how can you explain that one down to tinted specs?
How could we also forget the constant interference from the play the ball from Hull - Cas should have been awarded a lot more then just the 1 penalty, in fact it should have been a lot closer to 10.
Cas had plenty of chances to win the game, but ultimately not taking them chances and Bentham being atrocious cost Cas the game.'"
Bless.
I see that the whining culture is endemic at Castleford, from the coach on down.
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| Seems swings an roundabouts to me. Somedays you get calls go your way others they go against you..
I think some should stop being totally against what the team do and get back to what we should be doing and support the team.
Don't get me wrong I ain't totally happy with how we are playing as a team..
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| Quote ="jacko1"Seems swings an roundabouts to me. Somedays you get calls go your way others they go against you..'"
Exactly.
We had plenty of calls go against us in the game, but these are conveniently forgotten by one-eyed Cas fans and our own miserablists.
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| The play the ball was 50/50...we see them given and not given.......thought the kick and our feed was harsh tbh.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"I suppose the only opinion that counts is the refs and the only people i see agreeing with him are Hull fans. Wonder if they would have so readily accepted the decision had it been the other way round??
Either way the decision was pivotal to the result IMO.'"
No - I agreed with him when he let your first try in after the forward pass... and the step onto the dead ball line when the "full back" retreived the kick wasn't a drop-out and probably a hundred other things that both teams did during the game.
oh.. oh... and my seat at the KC is directly behind where, against Cas, Tickle kicked the goal that hit the post and diverted over the bar - but the ref decided it missed and I think we lost that game by one point...
etc... etc... some you win, some you lose. Some would say we're out of the cup because of a missed forward pass. I like to think it will balance itself out over the season.
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| Quote ="downtheante"I like to think it will balance itself out over the season.'"
It normally does.
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| Outbreak of Morganitis in Cas by the sounds of it
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| anyone else notice bentham shout held well before the cas player offloaded in the build up to their first try?
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| Thought you deserved win, calderwood was your roll up sleeves and get at em man .
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Thought you deserved win, calderwood was your roll up sleeves and get at em man .'" He has been for the last 4 weeks. Who'd of thought it? calders being our leader!
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Thought you deserved win, calderwood was your roll up sleeves and get at em man .'"
Week in, week out, mate. Absolutely staggered by his attitude and work rate - in a good way
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Week in, week out, mate. Absolutely staggered by his attitude and work rate - in a good way
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Aye....and i bet he plays more than another certain winger.
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