we won our first five games with the forwards, the backs weren't involved then because they are simply not good enough.

I didn't say anything about not using this tactic, just that with luauki and crocker we will have better go forward. Which should then allow our halves more space. Crocker is brilliant at protecting his kickers.

While acknowledging the fact we have players out injured using that to defend the STYLE of play we are using is tosh. Bottom line is we play a dire style of rugby, that will be the same when we have a full squad out.

Yes some games it may work for us and we get a win, but you see the top teams playing with pace, variation, expansive rugby regardless of what players they have in the team / what players are missing!

Agar is way out of his depth, Hull made the worng choice in appointing him!

Your opinion, although i tend to agree with the people that have played professional rugby that agar is a good young coach. Also i have never used injuries to defend our style of play just that i believe our style of play will be more effective once crocker and luauki arrive and we get our first choice backs on the pitch.

It certainly is my opinion.....i guess we will wait and see what pans out over the remaining season, i had little faith in Agar when he was appointed (i preffered a clear out at that time), he hasn't done much since then to win me over....i suppose my initial doubts about him and the poor performances are informing my current thinking......

i think you are been very optimistic,crocker is a great player and a leader going forward,but in our first five games the forwards laid the platform blasting teams apart,but the backs were no were to be seen.

Are you the GAFFER? Because you seem very vociferous in his defence

While i'm not saying you would be i just think if we'd of won 2 or 3 of the close games (we would of been 2nd) i don't think people would of been as critical as they are.

Yes they would...........I didnt want Agar in the job and he still hasnt proven to me he is the right person.

shhhh, let people have their say, we've been proven right, they just don't like it.

Agar is NOT good enough, it is simple.

So you keep saying. After losing 5 on the bounce (in the league) were still only 2 points off 2nd! Things can only improve. People just don't see that the competition is a lot more competitive this year, Harlequins and salford have won at leeds, Rovers and bradford have won at saints.

You haven't been proven right though. As much as you would like to think so. I expect you to jump on the bandwagon though.

FFS, stop being an idiot.

Have we played well this season, NO.
Do we look like we are capable of being creative, NO.

As for "jumping on the bandwagon", I built the bloody wagon when it comes to doubting Agars ability.

Of course you did.

Unless you've only been here 5 minutes then you'd know I was one of the original dissenters about both Agar and Sharp.

Couldnt give a monkeys what other teams i doing...only botherd about us and we shouldnt be getting beat at home by the likes of Cas,wakey and salford.

We arent playing well and wasnt in the 1st 5 games (apart from Brad)...the signs were there in those matches that it would go wrong.

Talk about contradicting yourself. The reason you are 2 points off 2nd is because of the competitive nature of this season's comp. Doesn't hide the fact you are a woeful side with a clueless coach. Anyone can see that.

Don't talk sense, we're just bandwagonners mate, we have no right to comment, obviously

Look i have never said i'm convinced about agar, all i have ever said is that i will give him this season to proove himself. Last year we finished 2nd bottom with lots of injuries, this season we have roughly the same amount of players unavailable for one reason or another and are still in the play off places just 2 points off 2nd as we speak. You cannot deny the truth.

It's also worrying that people seem to want the team to fail just so they can prove a point.

Sorry mate, i know i'm not an FC fan but that's balls. No fan wants to see their side lose, it seems to me the dissenting voices know what they're seeing isn't good enough. There is a difference.

What you on about?????? dont want us to fail...we are failing as we have a coach who cant get the best out of his players...we wouldnt be failing so much if we had gone for a top coach...Folkes was around as was a couple of others.....would he have had them failing.

Utter bollox.

There isn't a single person on here (or that goes to games) that doesn't wish we were in top spot and still in the Challenge Cup.

Did you actually watch the performance against Salford last night, would you say we look a good side?

Jesus....i actually agree with you....top post fella.

You really are doing my head in



No one is using injuries as an excuse it's our style of play and lack of creativity that is frustrating most people, you however and your small band of followers cannot accept this and think we are being negative about the club. No one on here wishes for the team to fail but people's opinions are bore out of passion not just blind stupidty like some say for example.

I'm sure the feeling will soon pass!