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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A good and fair post from a member of group 2. The thing that hacks me off is the fact that group 1 claim they are the elite of our fanbase and are proving their superiority by witholding their support. Utter rubbish.'"
But then, the other group claim that they are the elite supporters because they are more loyal than the first group. And so it continues.
A little more tolerance on both sides, and slightly more measured responses to certain posts would be beneficial to the board as a whole, I reckon.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"You see the thing is I'm not delighted. I know there are problems at the club mainly down to poor recruitment over a number of years. I know Agar has made selection and interchange errors this season and have said so. But I also know that with a gradual improvement of the playing staff which Agar has started (albeit they're not here) together with the 9 years we have guaranteed in the top flight the performances on the field will imporve.
Too many people on here believe that you have to have one extreme view or the other and no inbetween. It's pathetic in my view to continually slag everything that happens at the club even when it's not always bad. Thread after thread of garbage rumour and slagging. The other thing which many either cannot see or refuse to see is that the league is closer than it's ever been with teams beating other teams they didn't used to. This weekend is a pretty good example. So no team has a divine right to win but some people act on here like we have.
We have not played consistently well for sure since the GF defeat under Peter Sharp. Recruitment and retention has been dire, and we have had a very very poor run on injuries. But some of the fans on here are not the same type that we used to have in the 36 years I've been watching. Too much arm waving, insulting and slagging off these days. Sure our fans have always been quick to offer an opinion but I'm feeling now that some are a bit disappointed that we won tonight and a true Hull fan would never ever harbour a thought like that.'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"6 internationals to come in yet.
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And they will improve things. But you and I both know that the players we do have available are underperforming and have been for weeks. Tonight was a small step in the right direction, but there's some way to go yet.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"You see the thing is I'm not delighted. I know there are problems at the club mainly down to poor recruitment over a number of years. I know Agar has made selection and interchange errors this season and have said so. But I also know that with a gradual improvement of the playing staff which Agar has started (albeit they're not here) together with the 9 years we have guaranteed in the top flight the performances on the field will imporve.
Too many people on here believe that you have to have one extreme view or the other and no inbetween. It's pathetic in my view to continually slag everything that happens at the club even when it's not always bad. Thread after thread of garbage rumour and slagging. The other thing which many either cannot see or refuse to see is that the league is closer than it's ever been with teams beating other teams they didn't used to. This weekend is a pretty good example. So no team has a divine right to win but some people act on here like we have.
We have not played consistently well for sure since the GF defeat under Peter Sharp. Recruitment and retention has been dire, and we have had a very very poor run on injuries. But some of the fans on here are not the same type that we used to have in the 36 years I've been watching. Too much arm waving, insulting and slagging off these days. Sure our fans have always been quick to offer an opinion but I'm feeling now that some are a bit disappointed that we won tonight and a true Hull fan would never ever harbour a thought like that.'"
Well said.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Well said.
Was the highlighted bit deliberate?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Read my post above. Some people, like me, can see good and bad at the club. Not just one side or the other. It's called being balanced.'"
I was generalising. Again, I think most people can see some good points and some bad. There are obviously a few exceptions. The point I was making was that, when things are as charged as they have been in recent weeks, there is a tendency to jump down the throat of other posters without just taking a moment to appreciate why they are posting as they are.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"And they will improve things. But you and I both know that the players we do have available are underperforming and have been for weeks. Tonight was a small step in the right direction, but there's some way to go yet.'"
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I was generalising. Again, I think most people can see some good points and some bad. There are obviously a few exceptions. The point I was making was that, when things are as charged as they have been in recent weeks, there is a tendency to jump down the throat of other posters without just taking a moment to appreciate why they are posting as they are.'"
I know what you're saying but generally people who try to take a balanced view are not the type of people who jump down posters throats. Some of the extreme posts on here in the last few weeks have deserved it mind
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I know what you're saying but generally people who try to take a balanced view are not the type of people who jump down posters throats. Some of the extreme posts on here in the last few weeks have deserved it mind
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I'm not so sure. Some of the people who would say they try to take a balanced view, jump down other poster's throats for not taking the same balanced view that they do.
They might call them 'pathetic' for example.
Sometimes when fans get down about what's happening, they can only see the bad things. It doesn't mean they are less of a fan, or that they love their club any less, it's just the way they deal with the predicament we find ourselves in.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"And they will improve things. But you and I both know that the players we do have available are underperforming and have been for weeks. Tonight was a small step in the right direction, but there's some way to go yet.'"
Quite.
You'd hope confidence will be raised with the result if not the general performance.
The returning (and hopefully arriving) players will generate more competition for places.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I appreciate that. Relative to getting beat by Salford at home, it is a good result. Relative to competing on level terms with the likes of Saints and Leeds and making a grand final, it is not.
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I don't know if anyone's mentioned it at all this evening, but we're only two points behind Leeds who are in second place. And Salford beat Leeds. At Headingly.
Joking aside, I agree. Not a sparkling performance but an improvement on recent weeks and a small step in the right direction. Sometimes the confidence boost from ugly wins like this can be the impetus for a side to turn things around.
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| Quote ="Kosh"
Joking aside, I agree. Not a sparkling performance but an improvement on recent weeks and a small step in the right direction. Sometimes the confidence boost from ugly wins like this can be the impetus for a side to turn things around.
Here's hoping.'"
I think the Castleford game will be a much better indicator than Salford. A win at Murrayfield might just reveal a few green shoots of recovery.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I think the Castleford game will be a much better indicator than Salford. A win at Murrayfield might just reveal a few green shoots of recovery.'"
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| Quote ="Kosh"I don't know if anyone's mentioned it at all this evening, but we're only two points behind Leeds who are in second place. And Salford beat Leeds. At Headingly.
Joking aside, I agree. Not a sparkling performance but an improvement on recent weeks and a small step in the right direction. Sometimes the confidence boost from ugly wins like this can be the impetus for a side to turn things around.
Here's hoping.'" and there were moments within the game that made a difference too, calderwood chasing and forcing the error being one of them.
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| What about in the second halk where Calderwood came out of nowhere running infield to make that tackle?
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| Quote ="denbo63"What about in the second halk where Calderwood came out of nowhere running infield to make that tackle?
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| Quote ="Kosh"I don't know if anyone's mentioned it at all this evening, but we're only two points behind Leeds who are in second place. And Salford beat Leeds. At Headingly.
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You wont see that mentioned by the Anger crew. Mention it yourself and they'll call you an idiot.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'm not so sure. Some of the people who would say they try to take a balanced view, jump down other poster's throats for not taking the same balanced view that they do.
They might call them 'pathetic' for example.
Sometimes when fans get down about what's happening, they can only see the bad things. It doesn't mean they are less of a fan, or that they love their club any less, it's just the way they deal with the predicament we find ourselves in.'"
First of all I called some of the POSTS pathetic and not the posters. There is a difference.
So in your view if you get down (like we all are) about the team's form just post complete garbage about let's say Lauaki not coming and it being announced next week. Total garbage but do it anyway. In my book that is pathetic. Maybe you think it's just fine to post garbage but I don't. As for being more or less of a fan I couldn't give a toss about anyone else's "fan status".
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"You wont see that mentioned by the Anger crew. Mention it yourself and they'll call you an idiot.'"
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| An ugly win last night was all that was needed. We got it .
I thought though our tries were well worked and we spread the ball nicely at times, The silly errors of the past few weeks were cut out.
Even Thorman deserves praise on last nights showing.
I`m no fan of the current regime running the Club. But when the players of Hull FC take to the field I will support them to my dying breath.
Lets get behind the lads now and hopefully take some confidence from last night.
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| I went, and I thought we were awful. I am a fan and I think we are utter garbage. I accept it but don't like it.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"I went, and I thought we were awful. I am a fan and I think we are utter garbage. I accept it but don't like it.'" i dont think we played all that bad. There seemed to be quicker play the balls, and at time when we put the ball out wide there were dummy runners and seemed to pressure the defence.
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"i dont think we played all that bad. There seemed to be quicker play the balls, and at time when we put the ball out wide there were dummy runners and seemed to pressure the defence.
all in all, a long way to go still'"
Indeed a long way to go. But we must improve, simple as.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Indeed a long way to go. But we must improve, simple as.'" But last night we did improve, as was said earlier we were quicker off the line, quicker PTB, thorman actually engaged there line once or twice. 2 of our tries were scored out wide, small steps i know but in the right direction.
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