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| Quote ="Standee"Better than Horne?
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Raynor is that good even zod rates him
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Yes, IMO. I really rate him, if you hadn't noticed.
I think Horne's an excellent player too, but Raynor shades it IMO.'"
I'd noticed you really rate Raynor, but I suspect it's not his playing ability that you solely admire.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Raynor is that good even zod rates him'"
"World Class", no less.
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| Quote ="Standee"I'd noticed you really rate Raynor, but I suspect it's not his playing ability that you solely admire.'"
Don't know what you mean. Not really my type though, more of a Thackray/Yeaman fan in that respect, so my opinion of him is earnt solely through his on-field performances.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"A 50% success rate in a team with the worst attack in the competition sounds like top quality to me. If he'd been playing outside gidley and lyon for the last few years he'd have been by far and away the top try scorer. His defence and kick chase are the best of any winger in the competition. I remember a wonder tackle on henry fa'afili a couple of years ago and also the try he scored in Oz when chasing a kick everyone else had given up on. His only failing for me is his injury record'"
Agree completely. He's easily the best British winger around IMO.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Agree completely. He's easily the best British winger around IMO.'"
Not got a lot to compete with though............and as being the best British player we have had....good god......Horne and Cooke are a damn site better and you could sling a couple more in there as well...........
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Not got a lot to compete with though............and as being the best British player we have had....good god......Horne and Cooke are a damn site better and you could sling a couple more in there as well...........'"
agreed on both counts, it's a bit like a place we went to for a meal a few months ago, it's the "best restaurant in Mansfield", the fact that there are only 3 and they are all crap meant it was still fairly rubbish!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Spot on. That tackle on Fa'afili was unbelievable. Over his 8 year career with FC, he's been the best British player we've had. IMO.'"
8 years?......how you work that out?
Swear blind he buggerd off to rugby union at 1 point and chased the money........the only time he moved sideways then was moving up a place on the Subs bench........some loyalty to the team eh.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"8 years?......how you work that out?
Swear blind he buggerd off to rugby union at 1 point and chased the money........the only time he moved sideways then was moving up a place on the Subs bench........some loyalty to the team eh.'"
ooh, she wont like that!
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| Quote ="Standee"ooh, she wont like that!'"
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| Quote ="fc baldy"8 years?......how you work that out?
Swear blind he buggerd off to rugby union at 1 point and chased the money........the only time he moved sideways then was moving up a place on the Subs bench........some loyalty to the team eh.'"
And now we see where your dislike of him comes from.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"8 years?......how you work that out?
Swear blind he buggerd off to rugby union at 1 point and chased the money........the only time he moved sideways then was moving up a place on the Subs bench........some loyalty to the team eh.'"
He first joined us in 2001 and played only 4 games for Leicester before realising his mistake and buying out his own contract to "come home". You are happy to overlook Paul Cooke's "loyal" behaviour when citing him as a better player over the last 8 years than Raynor, then.
Realistically Raynor and Horne are the only genuine, consistent international standard British players we've had over the last 8 years or so, and more fans of other clubs would dispute putting Horne in this bracket than Raynor.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"more fans of other clubs would dispute putting Horne in this bracket than Raynor.'"
only the one's as silly as you!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Realistically Raynor and Horne are the only genuine, consistent international standard British players we've had over the last 8 years or so, and more fans of other clubs would dispute putting Horne in this bracket than Raynor.'"
Although this is largely due to the way Horne's international career has been messed about and the relative strength of other contenders.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Although this is largely due to the way Horne's international career has been messed about and the relative strength of other contenders.'"
Lee Briers and Paul Cooke?
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| Quote ="Standee"only the one's as silly as you!'" Sorry, but there are only 2 "silly" people posting on this thread.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"He first joined us in 2001 and played only 4 games for Leicester before realising his mistake and buying out his own contract to "come home". You are happy to overlook Paul Cooke's "loyal" behaviour when citing him as a better player over the last 8 years than Raynor, then.
Realistically Raynor and Horne are the only genuine, consistent international standard British players we've had over the last 8 years or so, and more fans of other clubs would dispute putting Horne in this bracket than Raynor.'"
Not really.....Cooke totally sh@t on us as well but overall Cooke was a damn site more important to the team than Raynor was.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Sorry, but there are only 2 "silly" people posting on this thread.'"
So sorry for having a opinion.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"8 years?......how you work that out?
Swear blind he buggerd off to rugby union at 1 point and chased the money........the only time he moved sideways then was moving up a place on the Subs bench........some loyalty to the team eh.'"
all players chase the money, he admitted why he was going, but it was a bad move career wise, so he had the guts to buy out his contract and admit his mistake.
As for who's a better player, raynor or cooke, you could put raynor in any team in the world and he will score tries. Cooke, on the other hand took his 30 pieces of silver and has done nothing, that's the difference.
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| When Raynor comes back I can see him and Briscoe being on the wings and Calderwood dropped, Raynor is top quality and Bricoes is gonna be a star and deserves to keep his place right now.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Wow.....once in 2 years.........'"
You clearly said and i quote
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I suppose you mean Briers created that try for him
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| Quote ="PAUL M"When Raynor comes back I can see him and Briscoe being on the wings and Calderwood dropped, Raynor is top quality and Bricoes is gonna be a star and deserves to keep his place right now.'"
doubt this why would we sign an international winger then bench him?
in same breath don't wanna go back to last season with no competition for places
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| Quote ="abel711989"doubt this why would we sign an international winger then bench him?
in same breath don't wanna go back to last season with no competition for places'"
Because at the minute Briscoe is out-playing Calderwood, you have to reward good-form. Apart from getting done by Mogg (defending at centre) Briscoe had a great game and is the kind of player that doesn't solely rely on good service. For me on current form, Raynor would replace Calderwood because he is in the top few wingers in the competition and we cannot afford to leave him out unless he gets in and starts playing poorly.
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| Quote ="*jonny*"Because at the minute Briscoe is out-playing Calderwood, you have to reward good-form. Apart from getting done by Mogg (defending at centre) Briscoe had a great game and is the kind of player that doesn't solely rely on good service. For me on current form, Raynor would replace Calderwood because he is in the top few wingers in the competition and we cannot afford to leave him out unless he gets in and starts playing poorly.'"
But Kath likes Calderwood
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