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| Sending Duffen or the Council 'outrage' e mails is not going to achieve anything.
We need to know why this decision was taken, if it was taken because of a valid reason then I can respect that.
If it has been taken for the benefit of Hull City AFC then serious questions need to be answered about how our 'community'stadium is being run.
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| Quote ="The Video Ref"Sending Duffen or the Council 'outrage' e mails is not going to achieve anything.
We need to know why this decision was taken, if it was taken because of a valid reason then I can respect that.
If it has been taken for the benefit of Hull City AFC then serious questions need to be answered about how our 'community'stadium is being run.'" But surely by sending emails it shows people are interested in his decision and are not happy with it,my email wasnt slagging him off, was just pointing out the benfitis to the local community, youth, rugby league and having hull on tv. Just said i was a little frustrated with his decision and maybe he should explain his reasons
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Or perhaps there's a bigger picture where a one off game could cost more than not playing it.
Some of you insist on proving to the world that you're stupid and small minded. It's not me defending Hull City or football, I'm simply pointing out where your arguments are ill-informed. If you're looking to change the decision, whinging about non-issues or venting your anti-football anti Hull City spleen is not going to be productive.
According to some of you, this is a massive Rugby League hotbed, so surely the KC won't be big enough anyway, and travelling an hour down the road to a bigger stadium would be no problem at all?
I read there were issues about playing a game at the stadium and knew the noddies would be on here blaming Hull City, yet admitting they've actually no facts to support their whine.'"
Maybe the JJB , Galpharm and Reebok could do the same , Infact scrap the whole tournament while were saving money.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Or perhaps there's a bigger picture where a one off game could cost more than not playing it.
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Feel free to come up with a possible scenario where that would be true.
Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Some of you insist on proving to the world that you're stupid and small minded. It's not me defending Hull City or football, I'm simply pointing out where your arguments are ill-informed. If you're looking to change the decision, whinging about non-issues or venting your anti-football anti Hull City spleen is not going to be productive.'"
I've done none of the above.
Quote ="My Uncle Harry"According to some of you, this is a massive Rugby League hotbed, so surely the KC won't be big enough anyway, and travelling an hour down the road to a bigger stadium would be no problem at all?'"
It's good for the city to hold big events. It's also great for local fans to be able to see an international in their local stadium. If you can't see that then you really do have your soccer blinkers on.
Quote ="My Uncle Harry"I read there were issues about playing a game at the stadium and knew the noddies would be on here blaming Hull City, yet admitting they've actually no facts to support their whine.'"
I haven't blamed anyone for anything, other than registering disappointment that the council couldn't step in to sort something out. There may be a perfectly valid reason for this decision, but as yet nobody has come up with one.
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| Very disappointing, I would like some explanation from the SMC as to why no date could be found, we won't get one though.
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| Like everyone else, am truly gutted at the news, found it a brilliant and unique experience going to an international game at KC. Was great for the city having extra TV coverage, + attracting fans from other clubs too.
If it is to do with Hull City getting preferential treatment it's an absolute disgrace, and (if it were possible) the decision should be reversed.
As someone as said, you just know that all efforts would be made to accomodate an England U21 international, even though these lost their novelty appeal very quickly (unlike the RL games which maintained 20,000+ crowds), with I think the last one drawing less then 10,000.
Either way, the RL community of Hull is missing out, very wrong IMO.
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| Quote ="The Video Ref"Sending Duffen or the Council 'outrage' e mails is not going to achieve anything.
We need to know why this decision was taken, if it was taken because of a valid reason then I can respect that.
If it has been taken for the benefit of Hull City AFC then serious questions need to be answered about how our 'community'stadium is being run.'"
I didn't send e-mails to achieve anything, I sent them to vent my feelings and frustrations on Duffen denying the venue and going into hiding by not being 'available for comment' to explain his reasoning behind the decision.
By doing that it's only reasonable to assume/conclude that due to his very deep involvement with 'City' that it may have been made to favour City.
And I still feel that the council should have some power to over rule Duffens decision on the basis of it being a benefit to the whole of the community to have the game here.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"I didn't send e-mails to achieve anything, I sent them to vent my feelings and frustrations on Duffen denying the venue and going into hiding by not being 'available for comment' to explain his reasoning behind the decision.
By doing that it's only reasonable to assume/conclude that due to his very deep involvement with 'City' that it may have been made to favour City.
And I still feel that the council should have some power to over rule Duffens decision on the basis of it being a benefit to the whole of the community to have the game here.'"
Hear hear! Well said!
you can sit back and say it won't do any good and you are probably right but the Council is elected by the people to ensure that the people get a fair share of the services on offer. Do you honestly think that if it had been a Football International it would have been refused without any explaination to the City fans? I doubt it!
I have written to the leader of the council for no other reason than that it made me feel better!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Feel free to come up with a possible scenario where that would be true.
One possible scenario? There's plenty, but that would put in the realms of the weak and feeble minded jumping to conclusions and half cocked theories on here. Seriously, if you can't even see the obvious two, then there's precious little wonder you're not understanding the situation and blaming football.
I've done none of the above.
Bravo. Now go tell everyone else how silly they're being.
It's good for the city to hold big events. True, but this isn't really all that big outside of the M62 is it.
It's also great for local fans to be able to see an international in their local stadium. If you can't see that then you really do have your soccer blinkers on. But others are claiming that this is a hotbed of RL, surely it's better to have it an hour down the road in a bigger ground so more of them can see it? The equivalent in Union would fill the KC more than three times over.
I haven't blamed anyone for anything, other than registering disappointment that the council couldn't step in to sort something out. There may be a perfectly valid reason for this decision, but as yet nobody has come up with one. I admire your optimism, but question the logic of asking one of the opponents of teh whole stadium concept for their support.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"'" Bloody soccer sheep!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Hear hear! Well said!
you can sit back and say it won't do any good and you are probably right but the Council is elected by the people to ensure that the people get a fair share of the services on offer. Do you honestly think that if it had been a Football International it would have been refused without any explaination to the City fans? I doubt it!
I have written to the leader of the council for no other reason than that it made me feel better!'"
Exactly Wilf, the other thing is, if the SMC was independant from either club then I believe that it would have gone ahead without any problems, in fact it should be independant so it can be promoted better.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"Exactly Wilf, the other thing is, if the SMC was independant from either club then I believe that it would have gone ahead without any problems, in fact it should be independant so it can be promoted better.'"
The SMC is independent.
Also, FC had the opportunity to have more of an input when it was first muted but declined, why should the format be changed because someone on an internet form thinks it could possibly be a football reason why a pseudo International game looks to be not taking place there causing the Rugby mad fans the possibility of a one hour journey instead?
Perhaps you'd have been better holding your tongue until the facts were better known?
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"The SMC is independent.
Also, FC had the opportunity to have more of an input when it was first muted but declined, why should the format be changed because someone on an internet form thinks it could possibly be a football reason why a pseudo International game looks to be not taking place there causing the Rugby mad fans the possibility of a one hour journey instead?
:1ck64588Perhaps you'd have been better holding your tongue until the facts were better known?[/
And perhaps you had best keep you mouth shut trying to make excuses and speaking for Duffen, these are our views on the matter that have no concern to you, and frankly my dear I couldn't give a toss what your views are.
Until Duffen becomes 'available to comment' and gives reasoned and valid arguement as to why he made the decision, whatever you say means 'Jack Schitt' on here sunshine.
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| How can an international match be classed as being "not really all that big outside the m62"?
I didn't realise it stretched that far, i always thought it stopped just past Manchester.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"Quote ="My Uncle Harry"The SMC is independent.
Also, FC had the opportunity to have more of an input when it was first muted but declined, why should the format be changed because someone on an internet form thinks it could possibly be a football reason why a pseudo International game looks to be not taking place there causing the Rugby mad fans the possibility of a one hour journey instead?
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And perhaps you had best keep you mouth shut trying to make excuses and speaking for Duffen, these are our views on the matter that have no concern to you, and frankly my dear I couldn't give a toss what your views are.
Until Duffen becomes 'available to comment' and gives reasoned and valid arguement as to why he made the decision, whatever you say means 'Jack Schitt' on here sunshine.'" '"
'Sunshine'
I see you ignored the suggestion to read the posts again minus the small minded attitude you suffer from.
I'm not speaking on behalf of Duffen, I'm simply pointing out that you're running off at the mouth without having ANY facts at all. That's the mark of a fool.
Besty, if there's really such an interest as you claim, the KC far too small for it.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"One possible scenario? There's plenty, but that would put in the realms of the weak and feeble minded jumping to conclusions and half cocked theories on here. Seriously, if you can't even see the obvious two, then there's precious little wonder you're not understanding the situation and blaming football.'"
Humour me and point out the 'obvious two'.
And once again, I haven't blamed soccer for anything.
Quote ="My Uncle Harry"True, but this isn't really all that big outside of the M62 is it.'"
It's an International against the World Champions. It would get a certain amount of national coverage.
Quote ="My Uncle Harry"But others are claiming that this is a hotbed of RL, surely it's better to have it an hour down the road in a bigger ground so more of them can see it? The equivalent in Union would fill the KC more than three times over.'"
Irrelevant.
Quote ="My Uncle Harry"I admire your optimism, but question the logic of asking one of the opponents of teh whole stadium concept for their support. '"
I suggested contacting the Council, not a particular member.
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| Whilst I admire your restraint Kosh, I will say it for you. The guys a first rate TIT.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Humour me and point out the 'obvious two'.
I've zero intention of getting drawn into that. If you can't work them out it's not for me to waste my time explaining. Apart from that, Admin get stroppy if threads veer off topic.
And once again, I haven't blamed soccer for anything.
Once again, Bravo. I'll see if I can arrange a medal for you.
It's an International against the World Champions. It would get a certain amount of national coverage. Perhaps. It depends on how important that 'certain amount' is. There have been occasions with RL when no coverage would have been better for the profile.
Irrelevant.
To you perhaps, but gives a bit of context to the claims and demonstrates the stupidity of the outrage when linked to claims of it being a rugby mad area.
I suggested contacting the Council, not a particular member.'"
Right, so two medals then?
Why are you people getting touchy? All I'm pointing out is that it's silly to blame football for your problems when most of you admit to not having one solitary fact on the subject. Or do you really believe looking small minded has benefits to your argument?
AS I keep saying, I've expressed no views on it being right or wrong, just pointed out the stupidity of some of the arguments.
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| what a pi$$ take. i have attended every international at the kc, the stadium was built with our money, how has this been allowed to happen? do ypu think this is why fc play every friday night now as there are no premier league games at this time?
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| Quote ="red al"what a pi$$ take. i have attended every international at the kc, the stadium was built with our money, how has this been allowed to happen? do ypu think this is why fc play every friday night now as there are no premier league games at this time?
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No. In fact I'm certain that it isn't.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Why are you people getting touchy?'"
I'm not in the slightest bit touchy, thanks for your concern.
However, your constant avoidance of my questions coupled with your deliberately inflammatory language leads me to believe that you are simply trolling and looking to start an argument. If you carry on in that vein you can take a short break from posting on here.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Quote ="me 'n' our kid"
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I see you ignored the suggestion to read the posts again minus the small minded attitude you suffer from.
I'm not speaking on behalf of Duffen, I'm simply pointing out that you're running off at the mouth without having ANY facts at all. That's the mark of a fool.
Besty, if there's really such an interest as you claim, the KC far too small for it.
'" '" The KC is 'big enough' for us and the select few that actually enjoy their chosen sport......Not the hoolies, bandwagoners and Stone Island models that are wanting extra seating.......just in case the ever changing (ie foreigners......ask Deano what he thinks ) Hull City actually make their 'miracle stint' in the premiership last longer than the expected 1 year.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"
Besty, if there's really such an interest as you claim, the KC far too small for it.
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Do you expect several million people to travel from the southern hemisphere to see the game in person?
It's good news for the city as a whole to be able to stage this sort of event, while not knowing the reasons for the SMC not wanting to play ball i can't comment. But Duffen should make the reasons known, he is after all the head of a company running the facility on behalf of the council. If he thinks it may interupt with city's fixtures, or damage the pitch or it's going to clash with Iron Maiden playing the KC then the least he could do is come out and give his reasons, thats not unacceptable to expect surely. Being unnavailable for comment is a copout.
I'm doing my best not to make this a Hull fc v Hull city thing.
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| Quote ="Kosh"No. In fact I'm certain that it isn't.'" oh no, its because you had a vote on the matter did'nt you! i reckon it was a major factor to save any embaressment of fc having to move a fixture when sky or setanta decided to show a live city game on saturday evening or sunday afternoon, the time when most sl games take place! anyway i still feel the rl fans ofthe city have been cheated out of an international game!
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