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| Whiting is never a starting full back or centre or winger at super league level because of his alarming lack of pace,what he is,is a utility player,who usually does a decent job for you.
As for Horne,I thought he had a really good game yesterday,as he did at Warrington.
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| Quote ="Monko"Whiting has a place in the team because of his ability to play at several positions, he is what I would call a 'jack of all trades, master of none'. Rich is a utility player and plays wherever needed to cover injury. I think you have over reacted Standee with your OP and Saints only get beat comfortably when they rest players before a big game. Saints are class with or without injuries and their club culture is a lesson to all.'"
Possibly I overreacted, but I still think that game was there for the taking, even with Ganson being in idiot mode.
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| Quote ="Standee"Possibly I overreacted, but I still think that game was there for the taking, even with Ganson being in idiot mode.'"
At one point I also thought that the game was there for the taking, but when Saints decided that enough was enough I soon realised that a draw was a fair result, however I agree 100% about Ganson. That man is a liability and should never be allowed to Ref a Saints game as he has openly admitted in the past that he is a Saints supporter/fan. If I had Ref'd the game Hull would have won 64 nil and 8 Saints players would have been sent off for been to good or to ugly.
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| Quote ="Monko"At one point I also thought that the game was there for the taking, but when Saints decided that enough was enough I soon realised that a draw was a fair result, however I agree 100% about Ganson. That man is a liability and should never be allowed to Ref a Saints game as he has openly admitted in the past that he is a Saints supporter/fan. If I had Ref'd the game Hull would have won 64 nil and 8 Saints players would have been sent off for been to good or to ugly.
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we just couldn't get the ball in the second half, either Saints tactics or our poor execution, 50/50, I'll watch it again tonight.
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| Whiting had a poor second half. First half from him was pretty sound. He misjudged a kick in the swirling conditions and that seemed to affect everything he did afterwards. Really unlike him. As for Sharp have been critical of him but he had a good game and just made one mistake. You would have thought that someone would have noticed he was standing in the wrong position though and told him to get back , it's not like we're short of experience.
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| Quote ="Standee"we just couldn't get the ball in the second half, either Saints tactics or our poor execution, 50/50, I'll watch it again tonight.'"
I've watched the game twice now for the entertainment value. Its a cracking game and all 34 players deserve some credit. Whiting did make some silly mistakes as did Tommy Briscoe and Will Sharp. It was intense and maybe nerves played a part but all will hopefully be better players for it. Ganson did his upmost to spoil a great game and just for Rich Agar who can't say this then I will " Ganson who are a rubbish Ref and you smell".
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| Quote ="Dave K."Sharp didn't cost us any trys yesterday.
Briscoe made more errors that led to trys than Sharp.
Everyteam needs a scapegoat though.'"
The one thing I think is pathetic is how much ofa scapegoat he is. His runs from dummy half yesterday were fantastic, he often beats his first man and his mistake from the kick off was his only one.
It annoys me that when he makes a good run or defends well, like his kick into touch when he was left exposed 3 on 1 (yet again) in the first half, fans are apprehensive of applauding him. If Briscoe did some of the plays Sharp did yesterday people would have been clapping till their hands went sore.
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| This is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen. Wilkin is a great footballer and used the conditions to maximum effect yesterday, they made an error or two in the first half we made some in the second half. Their kicking game like all other SL sides is better than ours. The kick down the touch line (Meli?) was a superb kick, what was Whiting to do exactly? His performance in the first half and at wire last week was first class, even Wire fans were commenting on it.
No one is having a go at Yeamo for just standing there, just before the hooter rather than playing to the whistle. That to me is far worse judgement.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Spot on. This year, we will mostly be blaming Sharp.'"
I disagree, this year most will not be blaming Sharp
The blame to date has been quite rightly with the coach...I certainly do not blame Sharp or any individual players for yesterdays performance, which for the record I was pleased with, however I have seen nothing of Sharp yet that makes me feel he is any better than Hally...in fact I rate Hally higher and I think he is very, very average!
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| Quote ="Standee"please, sod off to Widnes, you really are crap, and take Horne with you.
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you know that saying"its one thing being a tit and then its another opening your mouth and proving the point to everyone
Whiting is possibly our most consistent performer and Horne had a very good game and run his blood to water trying to get us moving...
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| Quote ="Standee"Indeed, Horne did get himself a bit more involved after I had posted,.'"
all hail the so called season ticket holder
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"all hail the so called season ticket holder
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here we go, personal abuse from you, I wish you'd grow up.
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| also take into consideration that we have just played three very intense games in a week with players jabbed up all over the park, most think we have faired very very well indeed and look much better for it too...
we made in reality 7 mistakes in the whole match ,
Ganson however made quite a few that both teams were unhappy about
a cracking match , a cracking advert for UK RL AND we just played two of the top tier teams and looked bloody good in both
Nuff said
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| Quote ="Standee"here we go, personal abuse from you, I wish you'd grow up.'"
abuse absolutely deserved for that childish "expert " view you posted Idjit, read all the replies mate, bit juiced up at home were we
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"abuse absolutely deserved for that childish "expert " view you posted Idjit, read all the replies mate, bit juiced up at home were we
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I'm perfectly entitled to an opinion, I've never really been concerned if people agree or disagree with me, at least I don't pretend to know stuff and post blatant untruths like a certain someone.
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| Quote ="Standee"I'm perfectly entitled to an opinion, I've never really been concerned if people agree or disagree with me, at least I don't pretend to know stuff and post blatant untruths like a certain someone.'"
read everyone elses posts in reply to your brain fart too mate....
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"read everyone elses posts in reply to your brain fart too mate....'"
like I said, I don't have opinions to be popular, I have opinions based on my own observations, and I don't have a pro club agenda either.
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| anyway Whiting made a couple of mistakes so what, he also covered well in other areas...
Horne had a decent game just some think he should be a hybrid of Offiah and Meninga mixed ....
we played well and looked good, played some good rugby and when needed AGAIN we battled well....
we took points from three games 99% thought we would loose..
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"anyway Whiting made a couple of mistakes so what, [uhe also covered well in other areas..[/u.
Horne had a decent game just some think he should be a hybrid of Offiah and Meninga mixed ....
we played well and looked good, played some good rugby and when needed AGAIN we battled well....
we took points from three games 99% thought we would loose..'"
Every one has failed to mention the spectacular tackle he produced in the 1st half...he saved a try there!
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| thought rich had a poor game yesterday, but everbody is allowed a bad day at the office,he will play far more good games than bad, as ive said before on here we could go unbeaten till the end of the season win the cc cup and you will still get the usual suspects putting negative slants on it............
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| Quote ="hull2524"thought rich had a poor game yesterday, but everbody is allowed a bad day at the office,he will play far more good games than bad, as ive said before on here [uwe could go unbeaten till the end of the season win the cc cup and you will still get the usual suspects putting negative slants on it[/u............'"
oh dont we know it!!
well said good post mind
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Every one has failed to mention the spectacular tackle he produced in the 1st half...he saved a try there!'"
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Every one has failed to mention the spectacular tackle he produced in the 1st half...he saved a try there!'"
The one where he got Foster into touch....which was brought back for a forward pass.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"The one where he got Foster into touch....which was brought back for a forward pass.'"
Yes...it may well have been a forward pass, however his work at getting him into touch was typical of Whiting, he is an expert at reading the game. As I have mentioned he is one of our most consistent performers.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"also take into consideration that we have just played three very intense games in a week with players jabbed up all over the park, most think we have faired very very well indeed and look much better for it too...
we made in reality 7 mistakes in the whole match ,
Ganson however made quite a few that both teams were unhappy about
a cracking match , [ua cracking advert for UK RL[/u AND we just played two of the top tier teams and looked bloody good in both
Nuff said'"
I said the same thing, great stuff
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