But then you can also say sometimes some of there team mates accidently knocks them out with part of there body..

Rugby Players know the risks in playing our game so calling brain damage being because of shoulder charges is ridiculous.

Shoulder barging is part of RL and if they take it away In SL then it will be a poor move

Quote ="Staffs FC"Presumably then there's a wealth of evidence collected over the past say 20 years or so that 'victims' of the shoulder charge are suffering after retirement as a result of their collisions ?'" The reason the NRL has acted is because over the past few years concussions are up. It's a combination of retreating 10 yards, more interchanges, fitter players and more "impact" players which have got us to were we are. We've already seen a retirement and I'm sure there's been some more this season. www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6077333424 It reminds me why were forced to wear crash helmets to ride motorbikes, it has to be a law because some people are too ing stupid not to. Here's a good piece. www.theroar.com.au/2012/11/23/go ... er-charge/

Quote ="Staffs FC"Presumably then there's a wealth of evidence collected over the past say 20 years or so that 'victims' of the shoulder charge are suffering after retirement as a result of their collisions ?'" The reason the NRL has acted is because over the past few years concussions are up. It's a combination of retreating 10 yards, more interchanges, fitter players and more "impact" players which have got us to were we are. We've already seen a retirement and I'm sure there's been some more this season. www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6077333424 It reminds me why were forced to wear crash helmets to ride motorbikes, it has to be a law because some people are too ing stupid not to. Here's a good piece. www.theroar.com.au/2012/11/23/go ... er-charge/

Boxings dangerous but they don't stop them from punching each other in the head as hard as possible!

Contact sports carry risks, it's the way it is.

You are indeed correct but isn't it nice when we minimize the risks?

Yes, Ricky Hatton has now retired, extremely sensible.

What will be the punishment for doing one

Red, Sin Bin or just a penalty?

Nothing at the time, they'll be forced to read this thread and the one on the vt.

I See where your coming from but i still disagree with the banning of the shoulder charge. Seriously what is wrong with it.

End of the day our sport is one of the most physical in the game. If there that concerned about hurting the head, Wear a scrum hat. That's what there there for.

The reason that injuries are going up is because refs are now enforcing strict 10 yards nowadays and as such the momentum is greater at the collision point than it is when you get a skinny 10.
And lets face it the dudes are bigger , faster and stronger than ever..... furk all to do with shoulder charges

you do realise this is a contact sport yes????
at least 50% of all tackles involve a head contact of some kind
FFs you can get concussed playing squash , so do they have to wear pads and a helmet as well

I've given you links as to 'what's wrong with it' if you haven't read them I can do no more.

problem is most pro players seem to disagree too !!!
as usual people who dont play making rules for those that do

It's a bad day in society when we start listening to specialists.

and stop listening to the people whom play the game eh


again who was the last pro player to get brain damage specifically from a shoulder charge ??

Yes, if it helps their long term safety.

The last player to be knocked unconscious from one.

Total rubbish, shoulder charges cause a very small percentage of knockouts, far more are caused by other things in the game, some accidental others not. A shoulder charge shouldn't knock anyone out really, unless it's high, in which case it would be punished, as they are now.

What?

tell you what, to minimise all injuries lets get players wearing helmets, plastic padding with crumple zones technology built in to help ...but hang on



talk about harping on to keep an argument going sheldon , its rugby FFS
since the game was invented, whats the percentage of knock outs from a shoulder barge versus the volume of players to have played the game, i would wager its so minimal its almost impossible to work out...
big hits are part of the game.....
Sheldon i wonder how many times you have trawled that tubey site to watch morley hits, burgess hits or omeley hits

just arguing for arguing sake IMO

Hang on, Sheldon doesn't agree with you, so he's continuing to make his case, but he's "arguing for the sake of it", what are you doing then, by perpetuating the same argument just from a different viewpoint?

In time they will be banned, imho.

Check the dates and times of the post to see who dragged it up, the rest is just nonsense and guess work.

I dont think Sheldon, or myself have done anything put state fact in this thread

We both probably enjoy the shoulder charge as much as anyone, but that doesn't get around the fact that it occasionally results in a player getting knocked out, which always causes some brain damage.

If after medical consultations the RFL decide to withdraw the move then this is only for the players best interests - and yes the game will be poorer for it. But medical experts should be trusted over players.

friend to the mods now

who cares what you think

Stop making yourself look stupid. Regardless of whether you and Standee are bosom buddies, your replies are getting pretty childish.

He is stupid, he can't stop

Grow up.