Noble is out of work, and is IMO of the same caliber as Smith. Just look at what he did last year with a Crusaders side that started the season in a new town, with no proper pre-season. You can also argue that Wigan are reaping the rewards of the work he did with their young players.

I'd have him tomorrow!

Agar, recruits, trains and then selects the players! I could accept a defeat if I could see us moving forward but this isn't the case.

I'd have Noble in a heartbeat. It staggers me sometimes how people turn their nose up at him, compared to what we've got currently there's no contest at all.

So Westerman missing Newton is Agar's fault?

Along with Fitz giving away penalties, apparently.

these are the plaayers he picks and they play in afashion that he choses. He may not tell them to miss tackles and give penalties away but these players are in these scenarios because of agar.

. That said the players made the mistakes today and not Agar, it suits people to blame Agar.

Sorry but I don't buy this..
Agar picks the team, lays out the tactics (badly), chooses the interchanges etc so yes it is 'blame agar' time again..
After match the fool said 2 mistakes cost us dearly.......
2!!!! How much of his own teams game did he watch??..

Load of rubbish, Fitz was giving away penalties away in the first half along with others. No way is that Agar's fault.

Totally agree paul and its the same in all walks of life the boss takes the blame for those below him but i think its fair to say they know that when they take the job as does agar, i think maybe its because the fans are so passionate they expect the coach and players to show the same passion for the club and today we did in the first 20 mins but then the bad discipline set in and they capitalized on it, the thing that frustrates me most of all is our fight back as in last season we either dont have any or we leave it too late, other teams like wigan, leeds,saints have a never say die attitude and as a hull fan i wish we had that,we did it when we won the challange cup in 2005 and look what happened we won

The Head Coach who has been in charge for 3 years has no responsibility for on-field discipline?

Do you honestly think that Agar, or any coach, tells their players to give away penalties?

Apparently not. I often wonder how different things would be with soomeone else in charge.
Or is this just a case of the grass is greener on the other side

No of course not, but that doesn't mean he has no responsibility when it happens. There's a hell of a lot more to being a SL head coach than what you do and don't 'tell' your players to do, it's a rare art to be able to get a whole team of players to perform to the best of their ability on a consistent basis and it extends way beyond 'telling' anyone anything.

Absolute !! He is the coach if players are giving away silly penalties (Captain or not ) he had the opportunity to change it but he chose not too.(we had 4 forwards on the bench so not short of options)

He selected the team, He sets the tactics, he should impose the discipline and he failed to create a game plan to snuff out their rampaging second rowers running off Dobson (Which is their staple attacking play). The Agar didnt miss tackles excuse is exactly that a poor worn out excuse .

Yes i do

But there is a time and a place

Think Agar has reached his full potential,which is obviously not good enough.Don`t think he deserves Hate Agar statements ,personaly.

Not the time an place of today's penalties though, that's my point.

How the players on the field giving way penalties is Agar's fault is beyond me.

The board have to make this call. They already have, in part, by giving Agar a 2 year extension to the end of 2012. They believe Agar is the coach to take us to silverware. It will be interesting to see how the season pans out, and if we do as badly as many on here fear (which in part is knee-jerkery to the fact we're now 9-5 down in derbies to Rovers, and part frustration that a new season doesn't seem to have brought a huge change in the basics) where the tipping point is, and indeed whether there is one. It's quite possible we'll be 1 from 5 IMO with Leeds, Huddersfield and Wigan in our next 4 games. I doubt whether that would be a call to arms given the board's continued support for Agar. The interesting factor here that's been alluded to by a couple of posters already is that there is a coach with a track record who's available, and this might be a factor in the decision.

Rather have Noble but he's not a yes man the board won't like that

Maybe they will have to realise that a successful club has to have a succesful team on the pitch as the cash cow is starting to lose patience. Bring in Nobby until October and then re think. Lets face it half the team is going at the end of the year and that can only mean starting from scratch again next season.

Agar isn't a yes man either, he's a grunt man.

Whatever people say about Agar he's divided opinion from the day he was appointed because some felt there weren't sufficient grounds for giving him the job and others felt he deserved his chance. Noble has a track record and standing within the game that means we could all unite behind him from day one. I'm pretty sure a while back he was quoted as saying he'd love to coach one of the Hull clubs aswell

I think it's a bit of an insult to someone of Noble's standing to ask him to come in until the end of the season while we re-assess.

In the hyopthetical scenario the board let Agar go, however, can't see Noble coming for just a year. So you're then into the "Why don't we get the next Maguire instead?" debate.

IF we are going to make a coaching change it needs to happen before the recruitment for next season is finalised. The board were very quick to give Agar the contract extension (Easter time?) so if things are going badly they should be just as quick to make a decision the other way. He has had long enough and has built "His Team" so should be held responsible.