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| He'd still be non fed and we have no available spots
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| Citizenship etc. doesn't matter, there is no 'quota' anymore. It's fed & Non-fed trained now.
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Pritchard
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One of those will have to leave, we've only just signed 4 of them and I can't see us getting rid of Mini or Talanoa, so it would have to be Michaels. Maybe Cas will take him? Or Wakey on loan?
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| heard michaels cant get a new visa not claiming its true just what i was told
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| Quote ="BIG HOWARD"heard michaels cant get a new visa not claiming its true just what i was told'"
On what basis?
No criminal record, not done anything wrong whilst he's here. Not getting a visa on some pony excuse when they hand out visas to soccer players left right and centre would be poor in extremis.
The club wouldn't have renewed his contract if there was a problem surely?
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| Maybe just as simple as , michaels goes to cas, not a bad deal for them if Carneys never going to play for them again anyway
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| Cash plus Whiting and Thompson for Carney
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Cash plus Whiting and Thompson for Carney'"
Is one of them giving him their birth certificate?
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| Whiting has denied it on twitter, would be gutted to see Whiting leave, still has a lot to offer but it very injury prone.
Not too bothered about Thompson, has his great moments, but consistent enough and too small for prop.
I really hope we sign Carney though, would give is a very good looking side for next year:
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| I expect he'll fit right in
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"I expect he'll fit right in'"
With other good players, I hope you're right.
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| Whiting and Thompson would still not free up the non fed place. It comes down to Michael's if true. Thompson ain't gonna be on big wage and he's probably one of the 'every team needs cheap players with effort' players. At a push I reckon it would be Michael's and cash or whiting but I hope not.
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| Quote ="dundeeblackandwhite"Whiting and Thompson would still not free up the non fed place. It comes down to Michael's if true. Thompson ain't gonna be on big wage and he's probably one of the 'every team needs cheap players with effort' players. At a push I reckon it would be Michael's and cash or whiting but I hope not.'"
I reckon Thompson will be on good money, as we will have paid him well to leave Cas. His role as a squad player should be the likes of Turgut, Hadley and Downs.
It has to be Michaels to be released or used in part exchange I agree.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I reckon Thompson will be on good money, as we will have paid him well to leave Cas. His role as a squad player should be the likes of Turgut, Hadley and Downs.
It has to be Michaels to be released or used in part exchange I agree.'"
I think the rumour of our interest has legs despite the obvious logistical challenges. But it's a complicated scenario for all parties. Carney's clearly crossed a line big time at Cas.
We lack size and aggression in the three quarters, so he'd be a great fit from that perspective. His discipline's poor but as others have stated he wasn't brought to disciplinary last year so has a handy EGP at the ready. It would be a risky signing, certainly. But maybe the club feel the potential rewards of a player that averages 130metres gained per game are worth it. I could be wrong, but I think his try return in SL is 56 from 56? Can that be right? ![Confused icon_confused.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_confused.gif) No idea what will happen but definitely an interesting one.
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| This is all just rumour and speculation at the moment. We don't have a non-fed spot available so all this talk of Whiting and/or Thompson leaving is meaningless.
Assuming we don't have a problem with one of our new overseas signings the obvious candidate to leave would be Michaels.
He has a contract which he would rightly expect to be paid up. AP has said he is not going to pay off any more players and can he afford to anyway?
The only way the deal could happen would be if Michaels goes to Cas in a swap deal or if there is a problem with his visa which would only have been for one year and would need to be extended. However as he has not been convicted of anything why wouldn't it be extended?
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| Further problem, and one hopefully Chris28 could answer - If Micheals moves clubs, wouldn't he need to apply for a new visa? Whereas he wouldn't to stay on here.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Further problem, and one hopefully Chris28 could answer - If Micheals moves clubs, wouldn't he need to apply for a new visa? Whereas he wouldn't to stay on here.'" He might do even if he stays with us, was he a one year initially with further options? If so, his initial visa might be just a year long one.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Further problem, and one hopefully Chris28 could answer - If Micheals moves clubs, wouldn't he need to apply for a new visa? Whereas he wouldn't to stay on here.'"
Dont quote me.., but if he's changed UK employer,
I think he needs a new work permit... and a new UK Visa to remain..
IF... the allegation in QLD, is still current,it would be difficult
to renew his visa.. -IMO
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| Carney to Hull not happening according to League Weekly
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| Headline reads 'Hull Players veto Carney move' and article states that it was a 'done deal' on Thursday but as rumours leaked out 'the management were asked if they would speak with the players first who then rejected the player joining them'
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Headline reads 'Hull Players veto Carney move' and article states that it was a 'done deal' on Thursday but as rumours leaked out 'the management were asked if they would speak with the players first who then rejected the player joining them''"
Seems strange that,can players actually do that?
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| I find it amazing (if its true) that a club which has suffered adversely as a result of "player power" over at least the last 10 years should allow its players to have a veto over who it does or does not sign.
Can anyone imagine Leeds or Wigan doing this?
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| @James_Smailes: I see there's plenty people saying FC are signing Justin Carney. 95% chance that won't happen as it stands. There was an enquiry, no deal.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"I find it amazing (if its true) that a club which has suffered adversely as a result of "player power" over at least the last 10 yeas should allow its players to have a veto over who it does or does not sign.
Can anyone imagine Leeds or Wigan doing this?'"
[iIf[/i it's true and there was a player vote/discussion on signing Carney, it would have been a complete one off I imagine due to the what went on at Cas and the personal link to Jordan Thompson.
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| plus theres maybe more to this than we know, shame as a good player, but if its gonna rock the boat well I can see why, So who else should we be looking at ?
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| Or maybe it was all a smoke screen from the start, to make it look like Pearson was willing to invest the westerman money . But infact never was!! Just my conspiracy theory side of me ha
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