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| Quote ="legohead"i just wanted to see peoples views 6 games in thats all... so half way through the season if you see a thread with calderwoods name as the title dont open it.
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Thoughts after 6 games.
The lad hasnt done much worng, he hasnt had much chance to shine but hes a dry ground player and we need to play to his strengths too. Defence has been good
What other opitons did we have anyways?
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| Just a thought but does anyone think that when we attack on the right our attacking line isn't deep enough, yet when we attack left it's much deeper. Also some practise needed passing right which is weaker passing direction for majority of players.
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| Quote ="DAVE A"Just a thought but does anyone think that when we attack on the right our attacking line isn't deep enough, yet when we attack left it's much deeper. Also some practise needed passing right which is weaker passing direction for majority of players.'"
Fair point that we dont seem to get as many runners off the ball as we do on the left either.
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| As much as I don't like him he didn't play any worse than he did in the first 4 games. He does always stand in front of his , and he'll never get any ball until he stops doing it but this isn't the reason we lost. The ref was poor and we played stupidly.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"As much as I don't like him he didn't play any worse than he did in the first 4 games. He does always stand in front of his Centre, and he'll never get any ball until he stops doing it but this isn't the reason we lost. The ref was poor and we played stupidly.'"
come on you can do better than that!
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| Quote ="Sheldon"come on you can do better than that!
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OK, as much as the apologists con themselves into thinking he's the new wing messiah makes me seethingly angry, on this occasion I wouldn't single him out for any blame. I was actually impressed when he sent Horney through and I've never personally questioned his attitude, only his ability. Not rating a player is different than thinking he's responsible for the loss. Two players I do rate are Hall and Thorman, both who contributed to the loss more than Calders.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Thought he had a good game again....every pass he gets his behind him,he works like hell in defence which has improved...we have a problem with our centres as neither of em know how to pass.'"
I agree(Y)
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| Quote ="gostrider"Complete Tosh!!!! Calderwood is a winger who needs to be put into space - and we havent done that yet!! I feel his effort is there to see and commitment. Tonight he caught the ball in goal - called to the ref for a quick tap and was off!!! Only for Halibut to say Oui then Non! when Cas were out of position. He's never gonna be a line clearer but if we can give him open space he has class'"
your all full of crap! just like he is! he's on a v. good wage at hull alot more then briscoe me thinks and the young lad will come in and look for work unlike calderwood who'd prefer to sit and look at the white lines of the touch line. HURRY UP RAYNOR !
I don't usually write much on this message board and thats because of 75% of the people who write on here are idiot's and won't know a thing about our beloved game or Hull fc and would rather talk crap 24/7.
This commitment you speak of didn't see much commitment with a minute to go when he was jogging back to collect the ball that hall was deperate to keep in play!
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| Quote ="The Southstand Madman!"your all full of crap! just like he is! he's on a v. good wage at hull alot more then briscoe me thinks and the young lad will come in and look for work unlike calderwood who'd prefer to sit and look at the white lines of the touch line. HURRY UP RAYNOR !beca
I don't usually write much on this message board and thats use of 75% of the people who write on here are idiot's and won't know a thing about our beloved game or Hull fc and would rather talk crap 24/7.
This commitment you speak of
didn't see much commitment with a minute to go when he was jogging back to collect the ball that hall was deperate to keep in play!'"
every-one is entitled to their opinions..if people disagree this does not make them an idiot..maybe some will think your comment are idiotic..for the record I do not agree with your comments however I will not call you an idiot..passionate about the sport maybe as most who take the time to post on here are. Calderwood will come good imo
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"eusa_think.gif every-one is entitled to their opinions..if people disagree this does not make them an idiot..maybe some will think your comment are idiotic..for the record I do not agree with your comments however I will not call you an idiot..passionate about the sport maybe as most who take the time to post on here are. Calderwood will come good imo'"
Fair comment and you seem like you write on here with some thought.
but i just wish he'd get involved more i don't won't him to fail but he must start soon because i can't see a place for him when Raynor's fit .
I'm sorry for calling you guy's idiot's i just get mad when i feel people don't pull there own weight.
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| Quote ="The Southstand Madman!"Fair comment and you seem like you write on here with some thought.
but i just wish he'd get involved more i don't won't him to fail but he must start soon because i can't see a place for him when Raynor's fit .
I'm sorry for calling you guy's idiot's i just get mad when i feel people don't pull there own weight.
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The trouble is on occasions our centres fail to pass..however I am sure this will come..I think we will get the best out of Calderwood when the pitches get quicker I foresee some nice kicks going down the wing with Calderwood on the chase (which is were he excels imo)..I do not think we can knock his defensive work as he is fairly solid in that area..when Raynor returns I do not think Calderwood will be dropped..we will see..it is nice for Agar to have options which I am sure will keep them all on their toes. Do not worry about it we all get frustrated as you see when reading the posts
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"The trouble is on occasions our centres fail to pass..however I am sure this will come..I think we will get the best out of Calderwood when the pitches get quicker I foresee some nice kicks going down the wing with Calderwood on the chase (which is were he excels imo)..I do not think we can knock his defensive work as he is fairly solid in that area..when Raynor returns I do not think Calderwood will be dropped..we will see..it is nice for Agar to have options which I am sure will keep them all on their toes. Do not worry about it we all get frustrated as you see when reading the posts
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Lets hope!!
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| why is the way Calderwood plays surprising some people?
He has always lined up just off the centre's shoulder - it brings in the cut out pass into play which Leeds and Wigan utilised quite effectively when he was with them.
His current lack of ball isn't helped by the fact he has Tickle on his side of the field (as someone has already mentioned) who likes to take a pass and run back inside.... whereas Manu takes a pass and runs wider bringing in his centre/winger easier.
He really hasn't done much wrong so far - he just plays a different style which Agar doesn't seem to have a problem with.
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| Quote ="BALROG"why is the way Calderwood plays surprising some people?
He has always lined up just off the centre's shoulder - it brings in the cut out pass into play which Leeds and Wigan utilised quite effectively when he was with them.
His current lack of ball isn't helped by the fact he has Tickle on his side of the field (as someone has already mentioned) who likes to take a pass and run back inside.... whereas Manu takes a pass and runs wider bringing in his centre/winger easier.
He really hasn't done much wrong so far - he just plays a different style which Agar doesn't seem to have a problem with.'"
Exactly right.
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| hes not particularly big or strong or fast or skillful or coordinated. hes just a bit crap... and always has been
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| Quote ="The Southstand Madman!"your all full of crap! just like he is! he's on a v. good wage at hull alot more then briscoe me thinks and the young lad will come in and look for work unlike calderwood who'd prefer to sit and look at the white lines of the touch line. HURRY UP RAYNOR !
I don't usually write much on this message board and thats because of 75% of the people who write on here are idiot's and won't know a thing about our beloved game or Hull fc and would rather talk crap 24/7.
This commitment you speak of
didn't see much commitment with a minute to go when he was jogging back to collect the ball that hall was deperate to keep in play!'"
Calderwood doesn't sit and look at the white lines of the touch line, he does come into the field looking for work as much as if not more than Briscoe. The fact is that that part of his game isn't his strong point. We need to utilize his attacking strengths.
For example, high kick to his corner, bats it down to Graeme Horne who scores.
Yet we only do this once?
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| Quote ="The Southstand Madman!"your all full of crap! just like he is! he's on a v. good wage at hull alot more then briscoe me thinks and the young lad will come in and look for work unlike calderwood who'd prefer to sit and look at the white lines of the touch line. HURRY UP RAYNOR !
I don't usually write much on this message board and thats because of 75% of the people who write on here are idiot's and won't know a thing about our beloved game or Hull fc and would rather talk crap 24/7. '"
My Irony-O-Meter just exploded.
You need to calm down a bit mate. There's no need for talk like that.
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| Quote ="whiplash"Calderwood doesn't sit and look at the white lines of the touch line, he does come into the field looking for work as much as if not more than Briscoe. The fact is that that part of his game isn't his strong point. We need to utilize his attacking strengths.
For example, high kick to his corner, bats it down to Graeme Horne who scores.
Yet we only do this once?'"
Agree. Talk about him not looking for work is absolute rubbish. Time after time he was found on the left wing looking for work as nothing was coming to the right.
As I mentioned on another topic runs from dummy half are not his forte. Yeamans the same.
He has some great qualities as a Winger. We're just not using them.
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Agree. Talk about him not looking for work is absolute rubbish. Time after time he was found on the left wing looking for work as nothing was coming to the right.
As I mentioned on another topic runs from dummy half are not his forte. Yeamans the same.
He has some great qualities as a Winger. We're just not using them.'"
Most people understand this. We're not used to having out and out pace in our team. There's only the odd person who cannot understand that.
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| Calderwood's having a very good season so far. Solid in defence and doing as well as can be expected in attack given the fact that he gets about two passes every three games.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Calderwood's having a very good season so far. Solid in defence and doing as well as can be expected in attack given the fact that he gets about two passes every three games.'" And even that's being generous!
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| i had a coversation with my former boss when annouced his signing he said he was poo and i pointed out his marker defence, cover defence, kick chase and scoring ability when used correctly. to this he replied 'he doesn't work hard enough, hes never interested' again i pointed out his workrate and said his always in field covering and that he takes his fair share of carries against the forwards, although its far from his strong points. to that i got 'well thats his problem, he should stay out on the wing'
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| Quote ="legohead"i know he isnt getting the rub of the green and he's lacking a proper centre partner but to me his heart doesnt seem to be in it, i hope im wrong... thoughts ?'"
Its not that long ago there were a few on this board having a go at Colderwood for flicking back a high kick, yet when he does it and we subsequently score (our second try on Friday), no one seems to be overtly concerned.
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| Quote ="Bombers Double Chin"Why do you think Wigan got rid ?'"
Same reason they got rid of Colburn and Dobson?
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