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| Quote ="Rock God X"Really? Someone should have said.
The point is, one victory shouldn't make such a difference to the overall view of how Gentle is doing. The season could still be a roaring success or a crushing disappointment. Very little has changed since the week of the Bradford game, yet some of the rhetoric seems miles apart from then.'"
When one victory makes such a significant difference to our season then of course it will alter perceptions. More relevantly, it directly affects the sensibility of the story under discussion - it would be much more credible if we were not one of two teams still in the hunt for both trophies and appearing in one of the two finals on offer.
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| Quote ="Kosh"When one victory makes such a significant difference to our season then of course it will alter perceptions. '"
It only makes a significant difference if we win the final. The difference between beaten finalists and beaten semi-finalists when the season is ultimately assessed is not that great - particularly if the league form doesn't continue to improve.
Quote More relevantly, it directly affects the sensibility of the story under discussion - it would be much more credible if we were not one of two teams still in the hunt for both trophies and appearing in one of the two finals on offer.'"
I'd say that was 'less relevantly', given that we unanimously agreed that the story in 'The Star' was horse several pages ago and moved on to discussing Gentle's position more generally.
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| Gentle has taken us to a major final, more importantly he is putting into place a very good young player program for the future, has given young players a chance , the likes of lineham crookes shaul green bowden etc, we cant expect him to take us to the top in just over a year, but imo he is going in the right direction, as for the daily star report i thought april 1 had passed
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| tomorrows fish and chip paper.
gents has proven that he can pick a team and devise a game plan to beat any team in super league. why we have dropped silly points this season is up for debate but when gentle finds the illusive formula for consistency we will be a force in super league
his job is safe imo
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| Still think Gentle hasn't finished with our team. He's tried improvement's but the injury curse always seems to find a way of dampening our year.
Don't believe what the Star say's. True there's no smoke without fire but feel Gentle's job is safe.
Him and AP have done wonders with the youth structure and the future does look good.
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| Not expecting this story to have any legs, likely to Peter out in a few days
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| Quote ="Rock God X"There have been plenty of people saying 'another year at least' and there's been enough endorsement to suggest that some have been swayed by the Warrington game. If we lose the final and don't make the 8, I reckon at least some of those same people will be on here calling for Gentle's head.'"
At the point you posted, 5 people had said they wouldn't sack Gentle. Only 2 of those suggested he get another full year.
What a few more DID say was what they thought would happen, and several saying that they are still undecided, and it will swing on where we finish and the final result (pretty much exactly as you've just said).
Also, whilst in the minority, there were comments like this even in our run of 5 losses, so it is not really the vast turnaround you're suggesting.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"At the point you posted, 5 people had said they wouldn't sack Gentle. Only 2 of those suggested he get another full year.
What a few more DID say was what they thought would happen, and several saying that they are still undecided, and it will swing on where we finish and the final result (pretty much exactly as you've just said).
Also, whilst in the minority, there were comments like this even in our run of 5 losses, so it is not really the vast turnaround you're suggesting.'"
Perhaps I was a little unclear in that I limited my comments to just this thread. There has been a significant change in rhetoric towards Gentle (and our situation in general) since the Warrington game when, in real terms, not a lot has changed. The post immediately preceding the one of mine you questioned being an obvious example.
Since then, several more posters have added to the strong sense of positivity that was almost absent a couple of games ago.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Perhaps I was a little unclear in that I limited my comments to just this thread. There has been a significant change in rhetoric towards Gentle (and our situation in general) since the Warrington game when, in real terms, not a lot has changed. The post immediately preceding the one of mine you questioned being an obvious example.
Since then, several more posters have added to the strong sense of positivity that was almost absent a couple of games ago.'"
If you're not restricting it to this thread, that's a little different but I still don't entirely agree. It's not necessarily about people changing their minds over one game, there's also the fact that those with positive feelings all along will more comfortable voicing them now than a couple of weeks ago, when they'd have been shot down and possibly ridiculed. With changing fortunes there is a certain element of change in the forum population, and thereby a shift in some of the content. Works both ways, too, have a look at how many posts Sebasteeno has made since the Warrington game.
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| Sebs distraught at the moment lol
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| Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"Not expecting this story to have any legs, likely to [uPeter out[/u in a few days'"
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| Quote ="Rock God X"It only makes a significant difference if we win the final. The difference between beaten finalists and beaten semi-finalists when the season is ultimately assessed is not that great - particularly if the league form doesn't continue to improve.'"
The club's accountants would probably disagree with you. Not to mention the people working on sponsorships and recruitment.
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| Peter Gentle cant get sacked he hasn't had the vote of confidence yet off the hit man.
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| Dave Craven @DCravenYPSport 1h
Adam Pearson talks about Peter Gentle's position and future in tomorrow's @yorkshirepost #hullfc #rugbyleague
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| I think he deserves another year. If we lose the CC final and don't make the 8 then AP could rightly get shut and although I would see the season as a failure I would still be in favour of Gentle keeping his job. He has improved the squad, given youngsters a chance and improved our defensive structure. His failure has been keeping the team motivated and also our attacking structure.
I don't think AP is happy but, think he'll stick with him for one more season.
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| Correct Paul, he should be given another year as the team/club is definately improving from youth upwards. Our Defence is outstanding and our attacking structure needs work but I do believe is Holdsworth and Miller stay fit we will get to the top four next season.
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| @MeehanMedia: Owner Adam Pearson has told @yorkshirepost coach Peter Gentle is part of #HullFC's long-term plans and he's never considered sacking him.
Hmm, who's been sh*t-stirring here, then? According to Smailes the Bolton woman didn't write the Star article.
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| @MeehanMedia: #HullFC owner Adam Pearson in @yorkshirepost: 'We're 2 years into a 4-year contract with Peter (Gentle) .. we're progressing very nicely'.
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| 4 year deal? Thought he had just one more left.
If AP's happy so am I.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"www.loverugbyleague.com/news_10178-peter-gentle-rewarded-with-contract-extension.html
Until end 2015.'"
Cheers, thought it was a 2 and a 1 extension.
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| Quote ="Kosh"The club's accountants would probably disagree with you. Not to mention the people working on sponsorships and recruitment.'"
The accountants, yes. Not so sure about the other two.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"@MeehanMedia: Owner Adam Pearson has told @yorkshirepost coach Peter Gentle is part of #HullFC's long-term plans and he's never considered sacking him.
Hmm, who's been sh*t-stirring here, then? According to Smailes the Bolton woman didn't write the Star article.'"
Curiously, Julie Stott's name has now been removed from the Star article and replaced with [url=http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/330738/EXCLUSIVE-Hull-FC-s-Peter-Gentle-will-be-sackedJeremy Cross[/url Who he then?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"The accountants, yes. Not so sure about the other two.'"
I reckon being at Wembley helps raise the profile of the club with potential sponsors and signings in a way that being a beaten semi-finalist wouldn't.
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