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| Quote ="Faithful One"Smoking in a public place is illegal. End of.
I have two dogs myself so understand your care and probably would have done the same, however, this shouldn't be used as an excuse to break the law.
I also disagree about having somewhere to go as they knew when the were taking smoking up as a habit that they couldn't have a cigarette in ideal conditions all of the time. If someone cannot manage 2 hours without one, then I would consider seeking medical help.'"
Totally disagree So have you never broken the law in your life ???
Never gone over the speed limit EVER ??? Which also is breaking the law.
The stadium should cater for EVERYONE not just the me myself and I
People also didnt know when they started smoking that all public places would be banned this was taken away from them.
The smokers arent looking to pollute you with there smoke!!!
All they are asking for is somewhere where they can have a cig when they need one if that means providing an area then so be it i dont have a problem with and you shouldn't either because it will be in a special area for SMOKERS is it that hard to understand.
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| why would you bother moaning about smoking, if they want to smoke in the toilets let them. I think they know the consequences if they get caught.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"They just wanted to have a sly look at some todgers'"
Should have just gone in the east stand then
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| Quote ="denbo63"Sorry Kosh gotta reply to that.
Do you let your kids walk down the street behind a bus?
Do you let them walk down a busy road?
Whats the air to cigarette smoke ratio from someone having a fag in a toilet cubicle?
All the answers to the above are all pathetic in relation to the real world.
You say what suits. Chemicals in food...ginetic crops.....'E'numbers.... only the sheep of you believe thats all fine and dandy. Because you are told.
Stop hammering the smokers cos the 'Sun' told you its bad......
Be honest here...how many people do you know who died of cancer and didn't smoke....and did a 'Roy Castle' neither. If you are truthful There's plenty.
But that won't go with the propaganda will it?'"
i know of several people that have died from lung cancer from passive smoking, i work on a cardiothoracic ward, and see them every day of my workinglife, people who think smokers only get lung cancer think again, THEY DONT.
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| Quote ="Coach"All they are asking for is somewhere where they can have a cig when they need one if that means providing an area then so be it i dont have a problem with and you shouldn't either because it will be in a special area for SMOKERS is it that hard to understand.'"
Nobody [ineeds[/i a cigarette. Wanting and needing are not the same thing. Anyone who can't hold on for a couple of hours is frankly pathetic IMO.
A smoking area inside the stadium is illegal anyway. It would have to be outside and largely uncovered to comply with the legislation.
And who would pay for it?
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"i know of several people that have died from lung cancer from passive smoking, i work on a cardiothoracic ward, and see them every day of my workinglife, people who think smokers only get lung cancer think again, THEY DONT.'"
Apparently these people were figments of your imagination caused by reading [iThe Sun[/i.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Nobody [ineeds[/i a cigarette. Wanting and needing are not the same thing. Anyone who can't hold on for a couple of hours is frankly pathetic IMO.
A smoking area inside the stadium is illegal anyway. It would have to be outside and largely uncovered to comply with the legislation.
And who would pay for it?'"
Want or need Kosh both are fine by me so long as we cater for everyone i dont care.
And a fenced off area at the bottom of the stairs just outside the doors would not cost the earth for smokers, like they do at outside of pubs simple effect and then everyones happy.
The SMC should pay for the bits of fence at nearly £ 3 a burger and pie they can pay for almost everything
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| Why would it need to be fenced off? there are no restrictions on smoking outside the stadium as far as I am aware.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Why would it need to be fenced off? there are no restrictions on smoking outside the stadium as far as I am aware.'"
Surely that would be an area for smokers who have already passed through the turnstiles. It's probably not an unreasonable suggestion, I'm sure it's not the first time someone has made it.
As a non-smoker I couldn't care less. The smokers I do sit with can make it through a game without the need to run off and get a fix, when we've discussed it they don't mind having to wait until after.
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| So far we've had people on here asking for; Drinking to be allowed in the seats, better food and a smoking area. Does anybody go to watch the feckin rugby?
I myself do not drink, smoke or eat fast food during the season. I'm a good lad I am.
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| As an ex smoker (6 years stopped) I think the anti-smoking lobby has gone too far generally. I cant for the life of me think why they wouldnt for example allow folk to smoke near the barriers at pitch side during half-time. They wouldnt actually be "in an enclosed public place" in my view.
Other than that, allow people outside the stadium with a stamp on their wrist. Its not rocket science. Go to flamingo Park or anyhwere such as that and you are allowed out and back in with a simple stamp on your hand. They could change the word for every game to stop people stamping themselves. Or put some fencing round just with ticker tape and observe!!
Its very easy under the current "you cant do that" climate we have created to stop people doing almost anything they choose to do. Its also very easy or someone who has never smoked to criticise those wo do as they have no comprehension what the "need" for a cigarette entails.
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| Quote ="Linebreaker"As an ex smoker (6 years stopped) I think the anti-smoking lobby has gone too far generally. I cant for the life of me think why they wouldnt for example allow folk to smoke near the barriers at pitch side during half-time. They wouldnt actually be "in an enclosed public place" in my view.
Other than that, allow people outside the stadium with a stamp on their wrist. Its not rocket science. Go to flamingo Park or anyhwere such as that and you are allowed out and back in with a simple stamp on your hand. They could change the word for every game to stop people stamping themselves. Or put some fencing round just with ticker tape and observe!!
Its very easy under the current "you cant do that" climate we have created to stop people doing almost anything they choose to do. Its also very easy or someone who has never smoked to criticise those wo do as they have no comprehension what the "need" for a cigarette entails.'"
smc might not want to clean up the cig ends or put on extra staff for other people to walk in and out the staduim.
supporters might not like standing up to let more people get by them while the games on.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"smc might not want to clean up the cig ends or put on extra staff for other people to walk in and out the staduim.
supporters might not like standing up to let more people get by them while the games on.'"
I was only talking about half time. Not suggesting for a moment that fags should be allowed during the game. My point is that the club could do something under current legislation. In fact, a few fans may well be staying away because of the fact they cant get through a game without enjoying their fix. I know when I was a smoker the current law would have had a serious impact on my ability to "enjoy" the game experience.
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| tbf the stamp on the hand is firkin good idea. It works well enough in Nightclubs and such like.
Before anyone suggests =redLEPER, or something similar on the forehead, that might be going a little far.
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| Quote ="hullian"Neither credit crunch nor job losses should have any effect on contravention of stadium rules.....If you can afford go to and watch then stick to the rules.
I mereley asked a question and was told it would be addressed but as yet have not seen or heard anything.'"
For your information, as a steward at the KC stadium, I ejected 2 FC fans on Friday night for smoking. They were given a warning just before the start of the game and were seen again at half time and were asked to leave. So, contrary to your statement that smoking is ignored by stewards, I beg to differ.
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| Quote ="Bransholme Red"For your information, as a steward at the KC stadium, I ejected 2 FC fans on Friday night for smoking. They were given a warning just before the start of the game and were seen again at half time and were asked to leave. So, contrary to your statement that smoking is ignored by stewards, I beg to differ.
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Good for you but I bet your in the minority..
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| I don't smoke but usually go to the match with three friends who do. They have a smoke before we go through the turnstiles and light up as soon as we come out at the end. Is it so difficult to manage without one for an hour and a half?
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"I don't smoke but usually go to the match with three friends who do. They have a smoke before we go through the turnstiles and light up as soon as we come out at the end. Is it so difficult to manage without one for an hour and a half?'"
indeed, why can't these whingers just breath oxygen for 80mins like the rest of us
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Lets face it wether the club like it or not if they dont provide a smoking area people will continue to grab a few quick sneaky drags when they can.
At Old Trafford police turned a blind eye to it so long as it was done at the top of the stairs. Millenium Stadium opened up the outside areas.
I thought if you got caught you'd get thrown out. Now I know they'll just tell you to put it out i'll maybe just get as many drags in as I can before I get caught.
Hang me'"
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| some people should stop spending 80 minutes in the cubicles if they are that worried about passive smoking. try watching some rugby instead
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| Anyone contravening the smoking ban should be zapped with one of those tasers. They'd soon stop doing it
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| Quote ="Kosh"Apparently these people were figments of your imagination caused by reading [iThe Sun[/i.
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"apparently" many people are ignorant to issues like these too,
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| Quote ="UllFC"indeed, why can't these whingers just breath oxygen for 80mins like the rest of us'"
exactly. just because they CHOOSE to inhale carcinogenic substances, doesnt mean we have to .
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| No on has even mentioned the plume of smoke you walk straight out into when you leave the stadium because people are lighting up on the way out.
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