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| Damn Ian Smith for ignoring the linesman, mind you having watched the highlights he didn't make the forward pass signal
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Bitter as usual Wilf, Well done'"
[iYou [/ibuying the beer. It must be good Friday, Guinness for me.
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| Totally bias again Wilf, but that's how I like it.
Thanks for making the effort.
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| Thanks for making the effort Wilf. Please don't even consider winding up the Diary. We find out more from your musings than we do from 'Airlie night' on KCFM or FC.Com put together. Great read as usual.
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| Always read the diary and to be honest enjoy it. Its good to hear a genuine fans view on his team and its history. However, as a robin, i take offence at been referred to as a "dick". Dont think the comment does you any credit Wilf and would be interested to know why you felt the need to use the term.
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| As usual nail/head etc - looking forward (hopefully) to next weeks
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| Great read Wilf, had you being able to post it as usual on Monday I still won't of read it till today as its taken me all week to recover from that performance on Sunday, and now we must prepare our selves for Friday a day I'm not looking forward too but can't wait for the day to get here !!
COME ON YOU HULLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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| Always a great read, if people don't like it why do continue to read it.
Even better this week you speak from the heart and see the same game as we do.
Keep it coming, your a hero.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Damn Ian Smith for ignoring the linesman, mind you having watched the highlights he didn't make the forward pass signal'"
The linesman wouldn't make a signalin this game - he is miked to the ref and gives input verbally.
Out of curiosity, do you know how a linesman signals a forward pass or are you just pretending to act clever?
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| The world has settled back onto an even keel.
Thanks Wilf!
Gonna need your words of wisdom for stability after Friday - and daren't think about Monday...
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"The linesman wouldn't make a signalin this game - he is miked to the ref and gives input verbally.
Out of curiosity, do you know how a linesman signals a forward pass or are you just pretending to act clever?'"
They are miked to the referee every game in the super league but they still make the signal, even for the sky games
Watch the derby from friday again when Welham throws a ball to fox which goes forward I think its in the first 10 minutes. The linesman makes the signal for a forward pass then as well
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"They are miked to the referee every game in the super league but they still make the signal, even for the sky games
Watch the derby from friday again when Welham throws a ball to fox which goes forward I think its in the first 10 minutes. The linesman makes the signal for a forward pass then as well'"
and what is a touch judges signal for forward? As, a professional touch judge, I know what the signal is - but very few people actually do. I don't have sky to watch the incident, so perhaps you could.
All pro games, the officials are miked together, not just sky and SL. A tj will only give a visual signal if the referee looks or the comms set is not functioning as it should.
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"and what is a touch judges signal for forward? As, a professional touch judge, I know what the signal is - but very few people actually do. I don't have sky to watch the incident, so perhaps you could.
All pro games, the officials are miked together, not just sky and SL. A tj will only give a visual signal if the referee looks or the comms set is not functioning as it should.'"
The flag is held vertical close to the linesmans body, I could show you if I had a flag
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"The flag is held vertical close to the linesmans body, I could show you if I had a flag
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Well done - most people don't know what TJ's signals mean.
Deduct 1 point for calling a touch judge a linesman though
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| My Apologise for the late appearance of this weeks Diary it has been with the lads from the site since late Sunday night, but they are obviously not around I am sure they will post it ASAP.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"My Apologise for the late appearance of this weeks Diary it has been with the lads from the site since late Sunday night, but they are obviously not around I am sure they will post it ASAP.
Wilf'"
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"Well done - most people don't know what TJ's signals mean.
Deduct 1 point for calling a touch judge a linesman though
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Damn Ian Smith for ignoring the linesman, mind you having watched the highlights he didn't make the forward pass signal'"
no but watch his lips and see as well that he remains stationary for a moment after the pass before then following play.
A technical question on that pass: if the ball moved forwards (i.e. travelled from the players hand towards the opposition goal line) before it touched the ground could it be deemed to be a knock-on and, therefore, reviewable by the video ref? Just a question.
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| Quote ="downtheante"no but watch his lips and see as well that he remains stationary for a moment after the pass before then following play.
A technical question on that pass: if the ball moved forwards (i.e. travelled from the players hand towards the opposition goal line) before it touched the ground could it be deemed to be a knock-on and, therefore, reviewable by the video ref? Just a question.'"
Good question...........throw it to Cummins
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"Good question...........throw it to Cummins'"
Doesn't appear to be a link from Sky Sports anymore....
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| Quote ="downtheante"no but watch his lips and see as well that he remains stationary for a moment after the pass before then following play.
A technical question on that pass: if the ball moved forwards (i.e. travelled from the players hand towards the opposition goal line) before it touched the ground could it be deemed to be a knock-on and, therefore, reviewable by the video ref? Just a question.'"
No - if it was thrown towards the goal line it is a forward.
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"No - if it was thrown towards the goal line it is a forward.'"
Yes - that's what I reckon too, but I don't know where to get the official rules. There are so many "versions" on the net and many could be interpreted different ways.
While you're answering questions like that. If a player deliberately grounds the ball in the field of play is that a voluntary tackle if he makes no effort to get up? Leading question. If he happens to be moving towards the try line when he does it and slides over the line (and makes no effort to get up) what then? Yeah I know.... TRY. But if you were coming out of your own tryline it would be grounded as soon as it touched the ground and, therefore, a drop-out. If it was outside your in-goal area, it would be a voluntary tackle or a surrender. So why is it a try? Now, where did leave my anorak?
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| Quote ="downtheante"Yes - that's what I reckon too, but I don't know where to get the official rules. There are so many "versions" on the net and many could be interpreted different ways.'"
There used to be a PDF copy on the RFL website, but when they changed the site it disappeared.
According to the copy I have, MCS is spot on - a throw towards the opponents goal line is always a forward pass regardless of whether it hits the ground or is caught.
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| Quote ="Kosh"There used to be a PDF copy on the RFL website, but when they changed the site it disappeared.
According to the copy I have, MCS is spot on - a throw towards the opponents goal line is always a forward pass regardless of whether it hits the ground or is caught.'"
As a match official, I'm glad I got it right!!!
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"As a match official, I'm glad I got it right!!!
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