What seems to be confusing people is the definition of luck and it's relation to probability.
I am in no way suggesting that luck replaces mathematical probability and if you're arguing against a belief in luck as a force which makes thing happen then I am on your side because that's simply not true.
However in the context of luck simply being an expression of an occurrence of an unlikely event or sequence of events then it is certainly valid and someone encountering an improbable event can be classed as lucky (or unlucky) to have encountered them.
If it makes you feel nice superior then feel free to replace the phrase "luck" with "having an unlikely even out of their control benefit/hamper them" if you like, it's up to you but I'll keep using the abbreviated term in common usage, safe in the knowledge that I understand the luck fairy had nothing to do with the extreme edges of the normal distribution curve

What about Lucky David Baildon then?

I've had enough I'm going on a lucky strike

We always are,its just like family arguments.

luck before you leap

Precisely what I've been attempting to explain.

No such thing as luck?! I wore the same pants today as on Good Friday (yes, they'd been washed before you say anything). There you have it, indisputably lucky Easter pants.

Talking about pants, one can only hope O'Meley has a fair few pair of red kegs as that is the only colour ever plays in



He must believe they bring him luck, mind you the way he always plays they must

Quality post !

I've listened to Kylie Minogue and if she says there's such a thing as luck then I'm with her.

Just an low probability event occurring then rather than your mystical luck

You're welcome to her now I've finished

Nice try, except that I specifically ruled out 'mystical' luck in around my second post on the subject.

So a naturally occuring event is luck then? OK

Quote ="Jake the Peg"So a naturally occuring event is luck then? OK'" www.thefreedictionary.com/luck

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JTP @ B&W = WF @ SB.

Kosh will get it.

Proves nothing. Your definition of luck is purely the occurrence of a low probability event which will happen if the action is carried out enough times. No luck involved

Nope. As I pointed out right at the start of this epic, [imy[/i definition of luck is:



The more rare the event, the greater the good/bad luck. What we've been getting into in the meantime is what constitutes chance and how it relates to probability theory. And we haven't even started on chaos theory yet.

As a matter of interest, what's [iyour[/i definition of luck?

My definition of luck is mumbo jumbo dreamed up in the days when man started at the skies in wonderment at the heavens and believed that the stars were the spirits of their long lost ancestors. luck is a word made up to try and pass off infrequently occuring events as something out of the ordinary, which they aren't.

So, in [iyour[/i opinion, at what point does a normal occurrence become luck? is it when something which has a 1 in 50 chance of happening occurs? 1 in a hundred or maybe 1 in a million?

If I need to roll a 6 in a board game to start, the fact I may roll it on the first roll is not luck, it's just probability and if I did it on the 20th roll then it's not luck, just probability

Interesting stuff. So, whats the probability of Longy getting all these so called 'unlucky' injuries one after the other, compared to other players of his age in RL?

About 1 in every 3 matches he plays.

High risk signing as everyone said at the time and has proven to be the case. His body is busted. Sign older players with poor injury records and you get what you get

Then you're wrong, which explains this thread.

Mystery solved.

Oh, and BTW - infrequently occurring events are - by definition - out of the ordinary.

No, you're wrong and you know it

Luck,will you two give over?

might be back for hudds game