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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar" As far as challenging for honours go, we have become a laughing stock !
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Get a grip, pal.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"hull fc..happy go lucky team with some very mediocre players...hoping for atop 8 finish or final appearance at best...
warrington.....wanted success, so bought top top players which made them back to back challenge cup winners and my bet for the title....
simple really...'"
And you think they are playing within the cap??
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Get a grip, pal.'"
you are seriously deluded if you think we will be challenging with this crop of players.....id be amazed of we even make wigan and co. break sweat.....
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"And you think they are playing within the cap??'"
doesnt matter tho does it...theve spent big and won big..we have not...dont forget its us that got caught fiddling the cap afew years back not wire!!!
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"hull fc..happy go lucky team with some very mediocre players...hoping for atop 8 finish or final appearance at best...
warrington.....wanted success, so bought top top players which made them back to back challenge cup winners and my bet for the title....
simple really...'"
Getting Smith as coach did that as they had the players under Cullen and Lowes.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I accept that the club have looked and are still looking but why does a big club like ours consistently fail to put a squad together that can actually seriously challenge at the top of SL ? This season's squad is a mid-table squad again but when the injuries kick in, we'll once again blame "bad luck".
Something has got to be wrong hasn't it ? It can't all be "bad luck".'"
Last year we came within a game of 4th place, despite injuries, playing awfully at times and dropping points in games we should be winning. If that's what we can do in a crap season, what can we do in a decent season?
Good luck with injuries in key positions, a decent signing before May (someone always becomes available) and who knows.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Getting Smith as coach did that as they had the players under Cullen and Lowes.'"
hmmmmm....beg to differ, but you could say getting a good coach is part of the recruitment process....
hence us having a assistant in charge who looks like taking us backwards and them, who have got a top coach.....
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| Quote ="Dnats Ynnepeerht"Last year we came within a game of 4th place, [size=200despite injuries, playing awfully at times and dropping points in games we should be winning.[/size If that's what we can do in a crap season, what can we do in a decent season?
Good luck with injuries in key positions, a decent signing before May (someone always becomes available) and who knows.'"
enough for most coaches to get the boot, what else can he do wrong??
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"you are seriously deluded if you think we will be challenging with this crop of players.....id be amazed of we even make wigan and co. break sweat.....'"
We have replaced a winger and replaced a full back. We require COVER for halves. We already HAVE halves. Yes, cover is required, but to say we're a laughing stock because we haven't signed cover is beyond me.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"enough for most coaches to get the boot, what else can he do wrong??'"
Agree, and I think the club should have got rid, or not offered an extension when they did. Fair play to them though, they're backing him in every way possible and learn't from previous coach sackings (Kear and Sharp).
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"doesnt matter tho does it...theve spent big and won big..we have not...dont forget its us that got caught fiddling the cap afew years back not wire!!!'"
Of course it matters If FC overspent and won everything (Like Melbourne) and got caught and stripped of everything. Noone would be happy and we'd have people like you coming on criticising the club because of bad management. They can't win.
They are sorting the problems of before out and that takes time!!
Was it not 30 odd years before Warrington last won anything before 2009??
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Get a grip, pal.'"
=#FF0000Mis-spelling an insult doesn't stop it being an insult...quit it.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"We have replaced a winger and replaced a full back. We require COVER for halves. We already HAVE halves. Yes, cover is required, but to say we're a laughing stock because we haven't signed cover is beyond me.'"
I think a key word you need to add to that statement is FIT, we do indeed have h/backs sadly they never spent much time on the pitch last season and we are going into this season without one of them. Last year the cover would have got more game time than the Horney and Longy
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"hmmmmm....beg to differ, but you could say getting a good coach is part of the recruitment process....
hence us having a assistant in charge who looks like taking us backwards and them, who have got a top coach.....'"
Lowes was a assistant and was taking them backwards with the likes of King,Morley,Monaghan....they stood him down and got Smith....when smith took over they was getting batterd and Quins stuck 50 on them with Smith there...they wasnt in play-offs but won the cup....Smith hasnt alterd that team...this season he has his own players but are still over reliant on Briers.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Of course it matters
If FC overspent and won everything (Like Melbourne) and got caught and stripped of everything. Noone would be happy and we'd have people like you coming on criticising the club because of bad management. They can't win.
They are sorting the problems of before out and that takes time!!
Was it not 30 odd years before Warrington last won anything before 2009??'"
thing is, in 2005 we won the cup and have steadily gone backwards ever since, for one reason or another..maily down to bad management.....
wire won the cup, invested and won it again, and then invested again and are now one of the favourites for the title whilst we keep asking why were no-where near the top...it is a simple equation, we will not spend big on the big plyers that will make a differance to our team......we need quality, and until that changes then we will be consitantly overtaken by other clubs such as wire, and hudds....and even kr!!
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I'm not your "pal". Prik !'"
Quote ="thehullwhitestar"It's pathetic fans like you that make it acceptable for our club to fail year after year'"
Nice.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Lowes was a assistant and was taking them backwards with the likes of King,Morley,Monaghan....they stood him down and got Smith....when smith took over they was getting batterd and Quins stuck 50 on them with Smith there...they wasnt in play-offs but won the cup....Smith hasnt alterd that team...this season he has his own players but are [size=150still over reliant on Briers[/size.'"
yes maybe, but unlike long and horne, he plays very regular and, theyve got cover in bridge etc....we have not
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"hull fc..happy go lucky team with some very mediocre players...hoping for atop 8 finish or final appearance at best...
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Couldn't agree more ! Wire decided one day....hey if we go out and get a quality coach and assemble a quality squad, we might just win something
It might cost a little ££££££ and some ambition but HEY HO, let's do it !!!
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"yes maybe, but unlike long and horne, he plays very regular and, theyve got cover in bridge etc....we have not'"
And we've got it in Turner!!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I fear it could be a long season ahead.'"
And what does it matter if it is? I'll still be there every week to enjoy some rugby and I'll still be looking forward all week to the next game. As much as I want this club to be successful I don't go to games so that I can gloat about how many trophies we won I go because I love the game and I love the club. And if we are rock bottom at the end of the season I will still be straight out to buy my pass for 2012.
I wouldn't mind but our club isn't in even a remotely bad state. Off field you could make an arguement that we are the best of the lot and on field we are quite comfortably a playoff side. Look at the fans of Dewsbury for example, they'll never get in to Superleague in their lifetimes yet they go week in week out regardless, hell the Blackpool fans don't even have a club anymore. Tbh the OP just sounds like a whining, pathetic rant.
Fwiw I am looking forward to Sunday and am confident of a win.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"And we've got it in Turner!!'"
bridge is better than turner.....think they mite have a guy who turned us down afew years back playing at 9...who can also play 7 extremely well..
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"berro's best mate + thehullwhitestar
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We seem to have very similar opinions but let's not jump the gun !!
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