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| Quote ="FoD FC Army"Any other members of the Hull FC staff grow up on this street?'"
It was the RL equivalent of Stella Street.
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."I remember being at the 1980's reunion just before xmas and Agar was there with Sharp. Jon was buzzing just being back amongst his ex team mates from the 80's but Agar just looked bored and totally disinterested which made it look as though it was an effort just to be there. Towards the end of the afternoon Sharpy just wanted to get round as many fans as possible and rekindle old memeories but Agar was busting a gut just trying to get Jon back in the car and head off. I thought at the time about Agar and felt like telling the f00kin pr1ck what a disrespectful lover he really is. Instead i'll tell him when he gets off the team bus at Wigan because that will be the night when the team and the fans will really stick the knife in him.'"
That would be the same dinner that Agar and Sharp told me that I would be "surprised at our play this season". At the time, I naively took that comment to mean that I could expect to see some type of fast flowing attractive rugby, how wrong I was.
I am still waiting for the opportunity to inform them personally that I am far from surprised, and in addition, I am embarrassed and ashamed of the team I support, thanks to their inability, either individually or collectively to get anything like the best out of the current set of players at our club.
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| Quote ="The Brother"But there is major problems behind the scenes with our coaching staff, '"
No sh*t?
Quote ="The Brother"and Sharp isn't the problem'"
We'll have to agree to differ. He's at least a part of it, even if he's not the one the players don't like. He was rubbish at Hudds and he's rubbish here. The entire coaching staff need clearing out, in my opinion, and a totally new set up put in place.
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| I don't go along with all this 'Sharp is not part of the problem' bollox.
At this club for too long we have made excuses for different people which means they have been kept in post and we have never had a proper clean sweep.
Agar was here when PS and JK were around so he was part of the problem. JS is around and involved with RA so they are both part of the problem. We need to appoint a new coach and let him appoint his own backroom staff. That for me is the only way we will see a positive impact to the way we play our rugby.
That said it won't happen.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I don't go along with all this 'Sharp is not part of the problem' bollox.
At this club for too long we have made excuses for different people which means they have been kept in post and we have never had a proper clean sweep.
Agar was here when PS and JK were around so he was part of the problem. JS is around and involved with RA so they are both part of the problem. We need to appoint a new coach and let him appoint his own backroom staff. That for me is the only way we will see a positive impact to the way we play our rugby.
That said it won't happen.'"
Agree 100% Paul, the Head Coach should be the ultimate head of rugby operations, everything else should go through them.
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| If Agar goes, Sharp has to go aswell!
Its evident that under his guidance we have took another step backwards. And here's the proof...look at Huddersfield. They release Jon Sharp and Chris Thorman and bring in a new exciting coach. What happens? They're playing really well.
Compare that to Hull who thought they were making a great decision in signing these two clowns....12th in the table.
The fact is, Agar and Sharp complient each other's lack of skills really well!
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| Quote ="The Brother"But there is major problems behind the scenes with our coaching staff, and Sharp isn't the problem'"
Well i know that Sharp, Agar and the rest aren't respected by the U18s never mind the first team.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Well i know that Sharp, Agar and the rest aren't respected by the U18s never mind the first team.'"
I would agree with that. The fact is that some people have a certain aura about them that commands respect without doing very much at all. Bomber had it in abundance. The lads only had to think he was anywhere around for the training camp mood to go up a notch. Kear had it while Bomber was there then lost it. Peter Sharp never had it. Others gain respect through knowledge and leadership.
I have to say that Andy Last has more respect among the youngsters. Whatever folk might say to the contrary I have seen him working and he is good at what he does. Having said that there is of course a vast difference between coaching at under 21 level than there is to dealing with the complexities of pitting your wits against Superleague coaches, some of whom are very good at what they do.
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| Quote ="Kosh"His immediate 'line manager'?'"
i would not have thought he was, i would have though he was only answerable to the chairperson/board and i mean the proper board, not the ones at the coal face
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| Quote ="Hutchie"i would not have thought he was, i would have though he was only answerable to the chairperson/board and i mean the proper board, not the ones at the coal face
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Ultimately, yes. Only the full board can hire or fire the coach. But as Rule has responsibility for the day-to-day operation of the club he'd effectively be Agar's immediate manager and (in theory at least) the first person to go to with requests etc.
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| Just forgetting for one minute that player X dosent like Sharp and player Y dosent rate Agar. At work I think my boss is a bit of a tool. I didnt like a couple of my teachers at school. It dosent mean I do a crap job and didnt get any qualifications though.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Ultimately, yes. Only the full board can hire or fire the coach. But as Rule has responsibility for the day-to-day operation of the club he'd effectively be Agar's immediate manager and (in theory at least) the first person to go to with requests etc.'"
Not according to the spinmeister himself on last weeks show
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| Quote ="Pookie"Just forgetting for one minute that player X dosent like Sharp and player Y dosent rate Agar. At work I think my boss is a bit of a tool. I didnt like a couple of my teachers at school. It dosent mean I do a crap job and didnt get any qualifications though.'"
But you may have got better qualifications and you may do an even better job if they werent!!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"But you may have got better qualifications and you may do an even better job if they werent!!
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Impossible!
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| Quote ="Pookie"Impossible!
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From a purely theoretical point of view it have been proven that the biggest driver of someones productivity is actually their immediate manager, normally double the weighting of any other driver.
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| We may as well go for Schofield as coach and Cooke as his assistant
They would probably be more popular than the current dynamic duo
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| Sorry if this has already been covered but the role has always puzzled me, as Director of Football, isn't Jon Sharp Agar's superior? Or am I taking the term way too literally?
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Sorry if this has already been covered but the role has always puzzled me, as Director of Football, isn't Jon Sharp Agar's superior? Or am I taking the term way too literally?'"
He isn't D.O.F anymore, he is defensive coach.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Sorry if this has already been covered but the role has always puzzled me, as Director of Football, isn't Jon Sharp Agar's superior? Or am I taking the term way too literally?'"
He was appointed Football Operations Manager, not Director of Football.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Sorry if this has already been covered but the role has always puzzled me, as Director of Football, isn't Jon Sharp Agar's superior? Or am I taking the term way too literally?'"
He was never that he was operations manager
Not sure what he is now
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"He was appointed Football Operations Manager, not Director of Football.'"
That the problem he should have been working with Duffen and co
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"That the problem he should have been working with Duffen and co
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Given their struggles in recruitment, he may well be!
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"This article from 2004 - when Agar was coach of York - suggests that Agar and Sharp were childhood friends. Unless Agar lied then in anticipation of moving to Hull, being made head coach and bringing in Sharp as his assistant.
[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/rugby-league/yorks-glory-run-revives-old-dreams-for-agar-567756.htmlIndependent article, March 2004[/url.'"
Everybody in Featherstone knows that Jon and Richard do not get on, going as far to say they dislike one another.
I am surprised it lasted as long as it has
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