I'm not sure how you can say we have no idea on the wealth of our owner or our outgoings yet say we are at parity with most clubs.

The point I was making is that pretty recently AP was making supportive noises about Hodgson so to pull the trigger now looks like an emotional response to a result rather than delivering a measured and strategic succession plan. Your last point is supportive I think of what I've proposed, namely that we need some transparent comms recognising these shortcomings.

If Hodgson is going, we've got to have someone lined up?!

Only way I can see is that we had a DOR lined up with coaching experience who would be willing to coach.

Tony Smith?

It's that mad it might be true...

If it is Tony Smith he's got balls like king kong

Smith had his faults, but he makes players play above themselves.

If Pearson had made a better coaching appointment instead of Hodgson ,We probably wouldn't have needed a DOR .

Unfortunately his record of picking managers at City and FC is patchy, struck gold with Taylor and Brown at City and Radford but there's a long list of gambles and flops he has hired and there's definately a trend of hiring assistants rather than experienced managers.

Rightly or wrongly if Hodgson does go. The malaise and rot at the club remains. That needs removing. If we do get another coach IMO that's his first job or else we be sat here saying the same thing next year.

I don't think the Rovers factor matters, he was only there 3 seasons and 1 of those was behind closed doors. While their fans liked him it got messy behind the scenes at the end. It's not like he's red and white through and through.

Taking the FC job is a gamble, if you fail to get the sinking ship back afloat you would be labelled a failure, but the same could be said for other jobs Smith would be linked with such as returning to Warrington or Leeds (before their recent turnaround)

He was in a DOR role when he went to Wire too.

He's available if we want a change and a culture reset.

Would still be a brave move from him though

Bringing him in as DOR and keeping Hodgson is also an option, he of course coached Brett for a few years, whether they get on or not who knows!

Keep seeing on social media from different people that it’s Hodgson out, Smith in.

Either everyone is wrong, making it up or some news is leaking out somewhere.

Pearson told a Sponsor after the Toulouse game that Smith wouldn’t be coming to the club. However who now knows what may happen after yesterday.

Think its 2 + 2 = 5.

Smith is available and wants to coach again. He does like a project



Didn't he fall out with Lakin though due to wanting too much control?

TS is no doubt a great man manager, history shows that, but something went wrong for him at Rovers, I watched the CC semi at Elland Road and I knew during the warm up we weren't at the races, that was the first sign things werent right, he's reluctant to give youngsters a chance, or that's how he came across at Rovers anyway. And his love of unstructured rugby was great, the times we won, but hair pulling other games.

If you sign him he'll no doubt improve you but it won't be overnight.

I don't constantly bang on about the financial state of the club and portray them in a negative light as you do.
I don't know the financial details of the club but we must face the same concerns as other clubs like Cas, Wakey, Rovers and Salford to name a few, was the point I was making.

I accept BH will be here next season but if he was to be replaced yesterday wouldn't have been the deciding factor but merely more supportive evidence of the quality of coaching and playing staff.

Quite a few people saying he’s gone.

He certainly has the respect of players something definitely missing now at the club.
Smiths style of R/L would also be a refreshing change.
The club is in such a mess now that even for Tony Smith it would take time.
Maybe if Smith came in we should look at one or two of the more unknown coaches in the lower divisions as an assistant like Gorley at Whitehaven who is doing a good job with very limited funds.

Lingard at Batley as well

Fingers crossed, it'd be unusual for the club to make a decision like that on a Sunday but I suppose depends if he's walking or he's been pushed.

What if Fev don't go up.... would anyone take their coach

The difference with our finances is we rely on Pass and Shirt sales more than other clubs as we don't get bar takings and only get a % of the hospitality. Aside from the Derby we also don't sell many tickets by match. Wakefield are almost a complete opposite, they sell more tickets by match (their crowds go down when it rains!) but they get a decent income from the bars.

Sadly for Pearson the cost of living crisis, a surge in interest in Hull City and the fans fedup after 5 years of below par performances and big name players not coming over from the NRL anymore (the Hetheringtons used to sign us a big name to cheer us up and get the tills ringing) are all coming at once. Changing manager is one of the few cards he has to play.

The only good financial news will be apart from the shops I bet the club doesn't have a big electric bill to pay!

Hardly a knee jerk reaction
Hodgson is way out of his depth and i for one have been calling for him to be replaced for weeks based on non performance,done nothing to address the indiscipline on the field, and my main criticism being the very poor recruitment for this season with non of his signings enhancing the team.
To let him carry on as long as he has and then start recruitment for next season is another big blunder by Pearson.
Dont care what anyone thinks but Sutcliffe is another average signing and if we needed another centre we should be aiming much higher, but once again we have another utility player coming in which seems to be Hodgsons only strategy.
Like i said many times Hodgson is too nice,too loyal to certain players when hard decisions needed to be made and now at last if the rumours are true he has been removed.

Undecided, he's a no nonsense character and i'd love to see some of our lazy players given a harder time but he also seems to fall out with people a lot, also didn't he have a beef with Pearson a few years back?

Agree entirely. Its the lack of seeing any signs of progression that is the biggest Hodgson failing. If I understood what style he was going for and that he needed more time to get the players he needed to make it work i'd be onboard with that. I always had this year down as a transition year and we all know there are a few players here next year we can't get rid of.

The standard of SL is in my opinion the worst its ever been and it woulden't take all that much for a new coach to get a few wins and get us in 3rd-6th, the real gap is to the top2 who are miles ahead now

He's an odd character, but does have the ability to lift people. As you say can't see him getting on with our lazy players.

Don't remember the Pearson thing