Bingo.
Barring a spell where we had a number of first choices off the field at once the pack was on top.

Their kicking game was a lot better too.

Leeds' defensive line speed was much better than ours for much of the game and our slow PTB made it even worse. Only later in teh game, when they started to tire did we get any field position. Don't think we had one PTB inside their 20 in the 1st half so I'm not sure how anyone can say our forwards dominated.

Yet again we lack leadership & direction on the pitch

Thats how I saw it Jake..

Couldnt understand why Feka wasnt brought on until late(68 minutes) in the game.

Its been refreshing to see more off-loads in our game, but for mine our execution remains the same,as it has been for many seasons.

Correct.


We had an A team system that played at a very high level so players got a game every week, not playing for two weeks or alternating weeks has much more of an effect now than it did back then especially if you're on the naughty step as Shaul is. Dean & Harkin, Dean especially, were seasoned 'professionals', Dean had plied his trade at Hunslet/lower divisions, Shaul is not a 'grown man', he's a young man with plenty to learn about life.


Dab

Dab, only one more for a full line.
Anything you disagree with it's either 'nonsense' or you brush off the poster with an inane response without a shred of plausible arguement to counter what was said, you are the bingo callers dream when it comes to dabbing the happy clappers bingo board

i don't think Leeds got too many in our 20 either, but they kept the game further towards our sticks with a great kicking game that we couldn't match.

Second half they were clearly on top.

Agree about Leeds' very quick line speed and our slow PTB. I think we could do more in that aspect, getting a 3rd and even 4th man in to slow the opposition down even more.

I had wondered when our resident from Mordor would crawl out from under his rock. Bingo plagiarism too, you need some originality Bumpy. It'd be like me starting a badly put together online petition.

Wormy's post about players being "disgruntled" and "personal dissatisfaction" is nonsense, backup up by what? Oh we lost, therefore the players must be disgruntled. The effort from the players we witnessed last night would strongly suggest differently. The fact you agreed with it speaks volumes really.

What really gets my back up, like the opening post, is the way people take the easy option and pickout Radford. Is he blameless, no. But should the players shoulder some blame too, definitely. Lot's of close-minded individuals on here, who in their disappointment after a loss (like we all are) lose their sense of perspective and race to log on to RLfans to express it.

It's sport. As a side we have plenty to improve on (both the coach & players), but we lost against a better team. It happens. It seems like it's something unique to Hull FC fans that we have to tear apart every part of our play that isn't perfect. I stayed and clapped last night. I would say I was a happy clapper, more a disappointed clapper who respected the effort the guys put in.

Oh, before I forget...



Dab.

The title of this thread says it all .
Club has gone backwards in terms of the first team .
Very disappointing this year .
I wouldn't be surprised if we lost on Wednesday.

I do know one player who is not happy and disgruntled so wormy's point does have some validity.
And as you mention close minded people that again could be levelled at you and other similar posters (happy clappers) . Its 2 ends of the spectrum yes they'll be common ground in the middle but definitely people with very opposing views.

I'm dreading playing Leigh !!!
Far too quick for us !!!

I was just thinking the same. In terms of speed of play creativity and coaching we are far behind Leigh on current form.

Did they play last night? What about the other 30 players?

The common ground is that we're all disappointed and we all want better. Close minded means that you're unable to see the bigger picture, other factors that are involved, and an inability to move from an opinion. I think a lot of the 'happy clappers' on here are people who are sick of the constant negativity from other posters, rather than being happy at the clubs situation.

I'd describe myself as a disappointed clapper, rather than a happy one.

I think they'll cause a lot of teams issues as they have a mixture of aggression in the forwards and pace in the backs

Leigh come in for a bit of criticism with the style they play but as mentioned above , A very good mixture that works well for them and entertaining as well.

Quote ="UptheCream"Five things we learnt from Hull and Leeds. 1) No game know-how 2) Stevie Michaels 3) Contrast - Westy and Wattsy 4) Sunset Boulevard 5) The modern day rugby league fan upthecream.co.uk/five-things-we- ... l-v-leeds/'" Think you should have included Yeaman as way past his sell by date. Micheals worked hard and had a decent game If Yeaman has been given a contract extension then that's scandalous No other coach in Super league would have Yeaman in their team.

Quote ="UptheCream"Five things we learnt from Hull and Leeds. 1) No game know-how 2) Stevie Michaels 3) Contrast - Westy and Wattsy 4) Sunset Boulevard 5) The modern day rugby league fan upthecream.co.uk/five-things-we- ... l-v-leeds/'" Think you should have included Yeaman as way past his sell by date. Micheals worked hard and had a decent game If Yeaman has been given a contract extension then that's scandalous No other coach in Super league would have Yeaman in their team.

Is there any stats available from last nights game?

Have you asked them all?

Yes sent them all an email and they all said you must be joking

I agree, his best days are behind him, but, IMO he's not as bad as you make out.

How good will he be in another 12 months? Hopefully only back up on a small contract next season or it's a poor decision

I agree, but as I said, I just think he's not as bad as some are making him out to be.

Compared to what moon and watkins offer leeds I think he probably is

maybe not as bad as some make out, but he shouldn't be our first choice centre next year,

Again, I agree.

Those 2 things particularly baffled me. On the half hour mark after another Westerman error, Radford got up from his seat and for a minute looked like he was going to make his way down to the bench. I honestly thought at that point Westerman was going to be taken off for a spell (and he should have been, IMO).