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| Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
But what does any of that have to do with a failed drugs test and a bungled cover-up job by your then Chief Exec, Conditioner and a player?'"
The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons
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| Quote ="FC MONK"Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
But what does any of that have to do with a failed drugs test and a bungled cover-up job by your then Chief Exec, Conditioner and a player?'"
The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
But he has nothing to do with HFC now.
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| Quote ="wolfie"Quote ="FC MONK"Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
But what does any of that have to do with a failed drugs test and a bungled cover-up job by your then Chief Exec, Conditioner and a player?'"
The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
But he has nothing to do with HFC now.'"
Neither does gleeson but we're still discussing him
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="wolfie"Quote ="FC MONK"Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
But what does any of that have to do with a failed drugs test and a bungled cover-up job by your then Chief Exec, Conditioner and a player?'"
The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
But he has nothing to do with HFC now.'"
Neither does gleeson but we're still discussing him'"
Sshh. You know how touchy he gets about his mate.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="wolfie"Quote ="FC MONK"Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
But what does any of that have to do with a failed drugs test and a bungled cover-up job by your then Chief Exec, Conditioner and a player?'"
The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
But he has nothing to do with HFC now.'"
Neither does gleeson but we're still discussing him'"
Sshh. You know how touchy he gets about his mate.'"
I'm looking forward to him posting the wakey team before it's officially announced
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="Rock God X"Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="wolfie"Quote ="FC MONK"Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
But what does any of that have to do with a failed drugs test and a bungled cover-up job by your then Chief Exec, Conditioner and a player?'"
The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
But he has nothing to do with HFC now.'"
Neither does gleeson but we're still discussing him'"
Sshh. You know how touchy he gets about his mate.'"
I'm looking forward to him posting the wakey team before it's officially announced'" I just want to see how many quotes I can get in a post.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="Rock God X"Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="wolfie"Quote ="FC MONK"Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
But what does any of that have to do with a failed drugs test and a bungled cover-up job by your then Chief Exec, Conditioner and a player?'"
The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
But he has nothing to do with HFC now.'"
Neither does gleeson but we're still discussing him'"
Sshh. You know how touchy he gets about his mate.'"
I'm looking forward to him posting the wakey team before it's officially announced'" I just want to see how many quotes I can get in a post.'" At least 1 more, it seems.
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| Quote ="FC MONK"The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
No it wasn't; the question that was put to you was:
Quote ="barham red"Why would people like to think Agar was in on this? Ok he wasn't the best for you but surely wishing he was now part of a cover up and subsequently punished is a bit harsh.'"
And you replied:
Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
Another of the mentalist contingent, intent on continuing the Agar fatwa?
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| Have Wakefield employed you as 'Agars forum guardian'?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Have Wakefield employed you as 'Agars forum guardian'?'"
His names not in capitals though?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
No it wasn't; the question that was put to you was:
Quote ="barham red"Why would people like to think Agar was in on this? Ok he wasn't the best for you but surely wishing he was now part of a cover up and subsequently punished is a bit harsh.'"
And you replied:
Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
Another of the mentalist contingent, intent on continuing the Agar fatwa?'"
But that is why people want him implicated. He seemed a decent bloke when he was at Hull. Just a shocking coach. But from what I have been told after he left, he has let himself down on that front as well
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="Rock God X"Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="wolfie"Quote ="FC MONK"Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
But what does any of that have to do with a failed drugs test and a bungled cover-up job by your then Chief Exec, Conditioner and a player?'"
The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
But he has nothing to do with HFC now.'"
Neither does gleeson but we're still discussing him'"
Sshh. You know how touchy he gets about his mate.'"
[uI'm looking forward to him posting the wakey team before it's officially announced[/u'"
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| Quote ="FC MONK"But from what I have been told after he left, he has let himself down on that front as well'"
Particularly regarding Luke Briscoe to Leeds, apparently.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
No it wasn't; the question that was put to you was:
Quote ="barham red"Why would people like to think Agar was in on this? Ok he wasn't the best for you but surely wishing he was now part of a cover up and subsequently punished is a bit harsh.'"
And you replied:
Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
You should change your user name to wolfie 2
Another of the mentalist contingent, intent on continuing the Agar fatwa?'"
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| Quote ="wolfie"Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="Rock God X"Quote ="Jake the Peg"Quote ="wolfie"Quote ="FC MONK"Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="FC MONK"Maybe because he stitched Hull up over Luke Briscoe and also told both Dowes and he was going to sign them and then at the last minute changed his mind'"
But what does any of that have to do with a failed drugs test and a bungled cover-up job by your then Chief Exec, Conditioner and a player?'"
The question I was answering was about why people have a problem with fubar and I gave the reasons'"
But he has nothing to do with HFC now.'"
Neither does gleeson but we're still discussing him'"
Sshh. You know how touchy he gets about his mate.'"
[uI'm looking forward to him posting the wakey team before it's officially announced[/u'"
wrong again
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I'm sure it will happen 1 day but it's not today
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Have Wakefield employed you as 'Agars forum guardian'?'"
No, it's done on a purely voluntary basis, motivated by an intense dislike of stupid people and helped along by a soupçon of pedantry.
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| Quote ="bren2k"No, it's done on a purely voluntary basis, motivated by an intense dislike of stupid people and helped along by a soupçon of pedantry.'"
A soupçon?
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| OK - a few points to consider...
There is no reason to suspect that Agar was involved in or aware of the cover-up orchestrated by Rule. People should be very careful of suggesting otherwise as it could easily be considered defamatory.
People should also be careful of calling the story regarding Gleeson's mental illness part of the cover-up and thereby trying to implicate Agar. As the HDM pointed out a few days ago there is zero evidence to suggest that Gleeson's depression was invented as part of the scheme or that it was even exaggerated by the club. In fact they were at some pains to point out that as far as they could tell it was entirely genuine.
For our new best friend from Wakey...
There was actually a fair amount of goodwill towards Agar at the time of his departure. Most posters, while not rating him as a coach and wanting him gone, believed that he was basically a decent bloke promoted beyond his competency. However it has since become apparent that he was most likely involved in the departure of Luke Briscoe to Leeds and this has cost him much or all of that goodwill.
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| I think Kosh is spot on.
I have zero respect for Agar now and wish him no luck whatsoever.
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| Quote ="Kosh"
There was actually a fair amount of goodwill towards Agar at the time of his departure. Most posters, while not rating him as a coach and wanting him gone, believed that he was basically a decent bloke promoted beyond his competency. However it has since become apparent that he was most likely involved in the departure of Luke Briscoe to Leeds and this has cost him much or all of that goodwill.'"
Well said. I had always considered him to be a good assistant coach but was beyond taking that step up. Saying that, after what happened with Kear & Sharp, if he was my assistant, I'd be constantly looking over my shoulder. Similarly, I'd also be wary of taking a job as his assistant.
I'm glad he's gone and as far as I'm concerned, he can get on with whatever he wants, providing it doesn't impact on Hull FC
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| "most likelyinvolved"does that suggest a cover up with anyone from Leeds that Rich knows do you think ?
Oh and i wish RA luck,he was great for you guys !
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| Quote ="Kosh"A soupçon?
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I was pleased with that too - especially when the iPad added that little squiggle under the c; very cosmopolitan!
Quote ="Kosh"OK - a few points to consider...
There is no reason to suspect that Agar was involved in or aware of the cover-up orchestrated by Rule. People should be very careful of suggesting otherwise as it could easily be considered defamatory.
People should also be careful of calling the story regarding Gleeson's mental illness part of the cover-up and thereby trying to implicate Agar. As the HDM pointed out a few days ago there is zero evidence to suggest that Gleeson's depression was invented as part of the scheme or that it was even exaggerated by the club. In fact they were at some pains to point out that as far as they could tell it was entirely genuine.'"
I couldn't agree more - that's what I've been getting at from the outset.
Quote ="Kosh"For our new best friend from Wakey...
There was actually a fair amount of goodwill towards Agar at the time of his departure. Most posters, while not rating him as a coach and wanting him gone, believed that he was basically a decent bloke promoted beyond his competency. However it has since become apparent that he was most likely involved in the departure of Luke Briscoe to Leeds and this has cost him much or all of that goodwill.'"
Thank you - it makes a lot more sense now.
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| Really? You didn't get that before Kosh posted that?
Tbf Kosh some on here, not me I must confess I mainly backed Agar and Rule, have had Agar worked out for ages.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Really? You didn't get that before Kosh posted that?'"
I don't read this board on a regular basis, so no.
My irritation with the suggestion that Agar was somehow involved in the cover-up was probably born out of the fact that since he signed for us, we've had a steady stream of daft posts on our forum from the small contingent of Hull fans who seem to have a personal vendetta against the guy. It's good to know that the prevailing view is a bit more sensible - I guess we all have our eccentrics.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Quote ="Sheldon"Really? You didn't get that before Kosh posted that?'"
I don't read this board on a regular basis, so no.
My irritation with the suggestion that Agar was somehow involved in the cover-up was probably born out of the fact that since he signed for us, we've had a steady stream of daft posts on our forum from the[u small contingent of Hull fans who seem to have a personal vendetta against the guy.[/u It's good to know that the prevailing view is a bit more sensible - I guess we all have our eccentrics.'"
Not a vendetta,but more annoyance and disgust in his role in the Luke Briscoe situation,[i whilst still being head coach of hull fc[/i
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