The point I was making was, it's all well and good seeing yourselfs as a big club, but until you can regularly beat mid or lower table teams like us, Wdnes and London you are far from a big club, each game is worth the same 2 points but also you need to beat the teams around you, not just have a cup final against Leeds twice a year.

We're a big club in terms of support and finances. Just not a successful one on the pitch. We're still one of the more successful outside of the usual suspects though. Which probably says a lot about the competitiveness of SL.

You can imagine any scenario you like, but McRae has no direct influence on the coaching.


We've made two poor signings IMO. The rest have been about as good as was available.

And I can't help what the 'whole rugby league community' might or might not have made up in their own heads. Anyone with any scrap of comprehension skills, or even a basic ability to read and listen, would have known better.

Can't really argue with that especially in respect of recruitment. Regardless of how difficult it is to get "the right players" there's no getting away from the fact that it's their job to do that and to do it better than their counterparts at other clubs. I'm pretty sure that their standing and influence within the game were major factors as to why they got the jobs , so they could persuade those players to come. These two were a signal of our intent , we became "big spending Hull" and expectations were raised. At the moment there's no getting away from the fact that they are failing big time. On the actual coaching front ,coaches who coach teams stuffed with the very best players essentially just have to man manage those players our coach and his team especially at the moment have to somehow get the whole team to perform better than the sum of it's individual parts , that's their job. Until they do they've got to lake their share of the blame.

Hearing of trouble in the camp . Certain players not happy with the regime .
If true play the young lads tomorrow . We have nothing to lose.
Evidence of the friction came to fruition, to certain people in the hospitality suites on Friday.

That rumour resurfaces literally every single time we go through a bad patch. So, about three times a season for the last five years.

Quite.

I'm also loving the number of folk on Twitter who seem happy to believe alleged player opinions on the current coach while cheerfully forgetting that many of these same players spent the last few years insisting that Agar was a wonder coach.

Boring. We get that every time we have a couple of poor results.

Think it might of been 'trouble of cramp'. Which would be more appropriate the way its going.

Ah. If it were only thus.

Bomber has nothing at all to do with the coaching side of things. The problems are several but not so bad as not to be rectified. Alright, it's all a bit unhealthy at the moment and there are well mentioned factors however, it will take time to change systems and compound that with the injury rosta we have to key players, then it will be some job. The biggest factor for me is the psychological one. So evident on Friday that a lack of confidence has kicked-in and that needs kicking-out not the coach. It is his job to enforce this though.

This is the arrogant mentality you need to shread, you might start to get somewhere then

Like Wembley or Old Trafford?

Not sure if HFC boy being less arrogant will help us out of the little slump we're in.

Unless you're implying that the club think the same?

10th place would be a start

We're saving that for you.

During pre-season Adam Pearson stated that if our proposed investment came off then we would become threats to you. Presumably, because the investment didnt come off he doesnt see us as a threat.
Arrogant? I think so.

Hudgell stated that Rovers had gone well beyond being the best team in Hull and were on track to become the best team in Yorkshire. Arrogant? I think so. How did that go last year?

If he said that then he is daft. Being the best team in Yorkshire would make us Super League champions which we are a long, long way from.

He did say it. Arrogance personified given your subsequent tumble from 4 to 7 to 10. Still, I'm sure he knows what he's doing. Books are balanced now at least, says he.

Indeed a daft thing to say, you are miles off - in fact according to google maps you're 4 miles further off than we are and as seen on Friday: we're rubbish

We'll just have to trust you seeing as nobody else can remember it

He totally said it. You even referenced it here:

Bloomin eck!!!! If he said it at the end of 2009 after our 4th place finish then he said it with some degree of justification. Granted we messed it up.
What is Adam Pearsons justification for dismissing Rovers so readily at this moment in time given both Clubs relative strengths?

He said it when we had finished 6th and won a play-off game and you had won 1 in 10 games and failed to make the play-offs, having said you were now reducing player spend to break even from 2013 onwards. Reasonable.