Like who? And we've signed players who will bring higher skills and new attacking ideas in the other pivot positions so it's not as if we'll be lacking in that department.

With a new 7, 9, and 1 next season keeping Horne makes a lot of sense. If we hadn't replaced those players then getting a more creative 6 would have been a better idea. It's all about the balance of the team and Horne does bring some good skills to the table that will be valuable when combined with a creative 7 next season.

1 yr with a yrs option for me....would hve liked to see anothe S/O come in for 2013,with seymour settled in by then we could have had a good attacking half back pairing.............but,lets just plod along like we have been doing.....

Can also have a creative 6 along with a creative 1 7 9 and 13......doesnt stop wire,wigan and Sts does it

I suspect he has taken a cut in wage, and if rumours are to be believe FC only offered him the one but our neighbours offered him 2 (no surprised there then

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The deal is done and as an FC fan I have to accept that, I really hope I can say it was the right deal in 2 years time as I will have no qualms eating humble pie believe me!!...
I pray he answers his critics like me, and starts by hitting his straps in the next 2 games

Weve been plodding along because weve failed to recruit properly since Judus left and Horne has been injured or getting through his diabetis. Now weve got Seymour coming in plus Heremaia and Ellis to compliment a Horne whos showing lots of signs of his best playing days so we should massively improve. Stick Westerman in the mix whos really finding his feet now and i dont see us just plodding on anymore. The only issue, and ive said it previously, is whether Agar can gel what will be an excellent side together into proper contenders. Potentially next years sides will be the best weve had for years, its just whether it can reach its potential.

We could have Slater,Marshall,thurston,smith and Gallen as the pivots and Agar would still screw it up.

not doing bad recently though, you have to admit it.

Who's to say Horne will still be a first choice in 2013?

Well he got coach of month for beating 3 teams below us and loseing to 1 so...yeah,not too bad.We then play a decent team and get beat.

The team is playing well yes,best for a while,but he still isnt the man to put us up with Wire,Wigan on a consistent basis

Agar,after he signs his 25yr extension for being coach of month



Ellis and Symour as 6&7 with Horne as back up.

I think that's what will happen after next season. I can see Horne doing some coaching work too, may well be part of his new contract.

I agree mate, but you have to give credit where it is due.

Credit for beating some very dire teams.

Hopefully he wont be a kicking coach!!!

only as good as your last reulst mate, as you know.

everyone with half a brain knows Agar is out of his depth, but we are stuck with him for the foreseeable.

yeah really showed his skill set and class tonight! that 2 year deal is crazy like I said prematch Horney is just not up to it for me and looks both predictable and stale.

1-17 we were poor tonight, don't single out 1 player!

past few weeks horne has improved since last season, nobody knows what value of a contract he has, we have more options next season in the halfs than we hava had in the last 3 or 4 put together

He might not be next season.

Seymour
Obst
Ellis
Nicklas

Will all be challenging him for the spot.

Look at the available props, I'm glad we've still got him.

Hopefully we can bring in another prop to challenge him and Dowes for a place in the 17.

It will also prevent us from rushing Adlous and Bowden.

NOT SUPRISED FOR A MAN ON 100k +.. TOTAL GARBAGE TONITE... GET RID

Exactly.

Plenty of competition in the halves so will have to play well to get a starting spot.

Played poorly but then so did everyone else. Also playing injured which won't have helped. Seems a tad harsh to write off the form he's shown this season after one very bad game, but par for the course on here I guess.

How do you know how much his new contract is worth?

Who played well tonight? Shall we get rid of everyone who played badly?

We missed a very very average Dowes tonight and Fitz is so slow with ball in hand the rest of the team fall asleep. Ive not been as disappointed with the way we're playing and the prospects for change fo as long as I can remember. Who cares how many clubs. What we want is quality.

Get rid if Ogre too and yeaman and all the others who played badly?